*Nauru* rich? With income from phosphate mining and a population of 4,000 people, Nauru is the richest island in the world per capita. Most Nauruans don't work and can enjoy the comforts of modern society. There has also been a documented loss of Nauruan traditions like subsistence farming as well as the violations of their rights to their own land and the continued human rights violations that continue at the Nauru detention center. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nauru_Regional_Processing_Centre>[ <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nauru#cite_note-:14-174>
*Tuvalu* problems : Is Tuvalu a rich or poor country? In addition to traditional agriculture and fishing, Tuvalu also relies heavily on international aid. The country is one of the smallest and poorest nations in the world, with limited natural resources and infrastructure. *Marshall Islands* need assistance: United States government <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_government> assistance is the mainstay of the economy. Under terms of the Amended Compact of Free Association <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_of_Free_Association>, the U.S. is committed to providing US$57.7 million per year in assistance to the Marshall Islands (RMI) through 2013 and then US$62.7 million through 2023, at which time a trust fund, made up of U.S. and RMI contributions, will begin perpetual annual payouts.The United States Army <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army> maintains the Ronald Reagan Ballistic Missile Defense Test Site <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan_Ballistic_Missile_Defense_Test_Site> on Kwajalein <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwajalein> Atoll. Marshallese landowners receive rent for the base. 'Bernardo de Sousa' via Goa-Research-Net <[email protected]> escreveu no dia sexta, 15/12/2023 à(s) 10:45: > Here is a list of the 10 smallest countries without any iron ore or big > industries that are all independent countries, rich and thriving. Your > argument falls completely flat: > > • Vatican City (0.19 square miles) > • Monaco (0.78 square miles) > • Nauru (8.1 square miles) > • Tuvalu (10 square miles) > • San Marino (24 square miles) > • Liechtenstein (62 square miles) > • Marshall Islands (70 square miles) > • Saint Kitts and Nevis (101 square miles) > • Maldives (120 square miles) > • Malta (122 square miles) > > > On 13 Dec 2023, at 11:03, Joao Paulo Cota <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > The economic blockade was designed to disrupt the imports from overseas > and from inland India. > > Agree that Goa produced manpower for the three military branches, but > having its own military bases, airports and naval quarters alongwith tanks, > fighter jets, warships of all classes, are a total different ballgame. > > Goa's iron ore and other small industries would not generate enough GDP > to fund all that plus run the state. > > It could never be an independent country. Just too small in size... > although there were valid calls for this due to the unique Goan identity. > > Regards, > > Joao PauloFrom: [email protected] < > [email protected]> on behalf of John de Figueiredo < > [email protected]> > > Sent: 13 December 2023 01:03 > > To: [email protected] <[email protected] > > > > Subject: Re: [GRN] Pamphlets > > Valmiki Faleiro stated that the economic blockade placed by the > Government of India proved Goa to be perfectly capable of being > self-sufficient and he demonstrated that Goa produced distinguished > officers in the army, Air Force, and navy. So that argument does not seem > to be supported by data. All the pieces of the puzzle were in place but the > puzzle was never solved. > > John > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Dec 12, 2023, at 7:18 PM, Joao Paulo Cota <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> Worth pointing out that Monaco does not have any army, air force or > navy. > >> Its defence needs are being provided by France. > >> Hence the same analogy would mean, India would need to provide that to > Goa, being its immediate neighbour... realistically, I can't see that > happening. > >> JP > >> > >> From: [email protected] < > [email protected]> on behalf of John de Figueiredo < > [email protected]> > >> Sent: 12 December 2023 23:09 > >> To: [email protected] < > [email protected]> > >> Subject: Re: [GRN] Pamphlets > >> Good points, Frederick. > >> The geographical argument does not count either. > >> Monaco is of the size of 314 acres, with a population a little over > 36,000, speaking French, and surrounded all 3 sides by France. The third > side is along the sea just as Goa. But Monaco is an independent nation. > >> Bruto da Costa wanted a plebiscite for the Goans to decide on the > future of Goa. This plebiscite never took place. > >> At any rate, if flowers became concrete, this conversation is > irrelevant because the Goa we are discussing is no more. > >> John > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On Dec 12, 2023, at 4:02 PM, fredericknoronha < > [email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> Something makes me want to disagree with quite a few of the comments > made, and conclusions drawn, below: > >>> > >>> (1) My reading is that Portugal dealt with East Timor in the way it > did more due to the turmoil at that time in Portugal itself, the Carnation > Revolution, abrupt change in political direction, etc. Open to correction > here. > >>> > >>> (2) About Goa being a "rich basket", economic studies and other > accepted analyses suggest otherwise. Salazar could have (rightly) seen a > "domino effect" starting in Goa. Something that undercut the plank on which > his ideology was based. Plus, in the Portuguese imagination over centuries, > Goa meant something rather different. Call this emotional reasons, or > whatever you wish. > >>> > >>> (3) "Indian patience ran out" is a shorthand argument which has, > unfortunately, been widely accepted in our perspective on the issue. If you > read the trajectory of events as outlined in Valmiki Faleiro's recent book, > you might conclude otherwise. > >>> > >>> (4) 1961 in Goa has to be also viewed in the context of the Cold War. > Some studies here have begun looking in that direction. This issue is not > only about India and Portugal, let alone Goa. > >>> > >>> (5) This "France was wise" or "Portugal could have followed France" > logic has been put forth repeatedly, and seldom challenged. It is based on > an acute misunderstanding of what happened in Pondicherry. For instance, a > perusal of the recently-published The Portuguese Presence in India (Notion > Press, 2020) by João A de Menezes, p.198-212, could easily make one > rethink this argument. This argument has come up a few times in this forum > too, and then we end up taking it as accurate. > >>> > >>> FN > >>> > >>> On Wednesday 13 December 2023 at 01:58:43 UTC+5:30 eugene.correia > wrote: > >>> Well, Portugal withdrew from East Timor, as the independence movement > was fierce. I don't think Portugal keeping East Timor as one of its > colonies would be a financial benefit. Seemingly, East Timor was a "basket > case' for Portugal while Goa was a "rich basket". Colonial politics in > those times rested on "gains and loses" and Portugal let go off of East > Timor but reluctantly held on to Goa. > >>> As events proved later on, Indian patience ran out. Knowing well that > Salszar would find it difficult to keep Goa in its embrace by engaging > India in a war, it was a walk-over as we know it. Goa's freedom did ring a > bell in African countries and the Non-Alignment Movement gained momentum > and slowly but surely the continent of Africa was free of colonial rule. No > self-respecting people like subjugation by a foreign power when the > people's consciousness and national pride comes to the fore. > >>> What would happen to Goa if it continued to be under Portuguese rule > is nobody's guess. France was wise, as it earned respect. Portugal was > humbled and disgraced. 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