> Meanwhile I will revive my own generator project.

I'll take the opportunity to hop on a soapbox, but the "closed
source/eventually open source" model is a curious trend that I think I've
only seen in the GWT community (are their other examples?)...

Musing, it probably stems from Google setting the example with GWT itself,
where historically a lot happened internally before being mirrored
externally, but it happens a bit for non-Google-GWT projects as well, like
the repackaging of GPE, which was closed during initial development
(although the result is great, and I really appreciate it), Singular, which
is still closed during initial development, now Elemental2. I dunno, I find
it curious.

E.g. with Singular, it's like it's being developed like the next Apple
phone; we have to be secret about it, not say anything, so we can have an
awesome keynote where we surprise the world with how awesome it is.

Granted, I'm sure those keynotes are very fun, but I guess I don't
understand, wtf, why not just open source things from day 1? IMO the best
case scenario, and most likely, is that you're going to attract early
adopters who will a) give you feedback to validate approaches/etc and b)
give you free work by tracking down bugs and committing patches.

Keeping things closed source "until they're ready", IMO, stifles the
potential contributor/committer pool that's needed for the long term health
of an open source project.

I suppose the risk is people writing a 100k LOC production app on a pre-1.0
project, and then they bitch about changes...but hopefully lots of
disclaimers and 0.x release points would help mitigate that...

Anyway, that is my soapbox. Or one of them, I guess. :-P Of course, we're
all getting this work for free, so everyone is free to do what they please,
and I will be very excited and thankful for both Elemental2/Singular when
they are available to us.

So please don't read this as "bah, that is dumb", but just as "gentle nudge
towards open sourcing sooner, if that's okay, thanks!". :-)

- Stephen



On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 6:14 AM, Rene Hangstrup Møller <rhmol...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks for the update.
> Looking forward to seeing what you have been cooking up.
> Meanwhile I will revive my own generator project.
>
> /Rene
>
> Den fredag den 20. november 2015 kl. 11.05.44 UTC+1 skrev Julien Dramaix:
>>
>> It's a bit too early to answer to this question with absolute certainty
>> but I don't think I can guarantee the full backward compatibility with the
>> first version of elemental.
>>
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