Arthur, I appreciate the info.
On Dec 18, 5:54 am, "Arthur Kalmenson" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Rob,
>
> Judging from cloudcity's response, not everyone is aware of the draw
> backs of these libraries (or, as you put it, my position on them).
> Ignoring an issue is not going to make it go away. I'm letting people
> know what the draw backs of using these libraries are, because a lot
> of people are impressed by the shininess but are unaware of the
> numerous problems. Anyway, I'm not here to start a flame war, I'm just
> trying to warn people before they commit all their resources to these
> libraries.
>
> --
> Arthur Kalmenson
>
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Rob Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Did anyone ask you opinion on use of third part libs in this thread.
> > We know what your position is on using 3rd party libs and you have
> > made it clear "numerous" times. Repeating the same thing again and
> > again is just adding noise to this group. Gmail has a wonderful filter
> > option and you can set yours to ignore any thread that mentions any
> > lib that you don't care about :)
>
> > On Dec 17, 3:34 pm, "Arthur Kalmenson" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> I'm hoping that a lot of those things will be added to the incubator
> >> in the near future. I've mentioned the request for simpler security
> >> similar to Spring Security's @Secured("ROLE_USER") annotations. Data
> >> binding and validation frameworks are on their way as well, in the
> >> near future.
>
> >> I would stay away from ExtGWT or SmartGWT though.
>
> >> --
> >> Arthur Kalmenson
>
> >> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:54 AM, [email protected]
>
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > This does bring up a good point and something that is sourly missing.
> >> > We have cobbled together some very generic type stuff patterned
> >> > (albeit very low in quality) what we used extensively in Eclipse Rich
> >> > Client. Maybe the ExtGWT guys or SmartGWT will come up with
> >> > something. Or if the Eclipse Web Client guys would do GWT.... Or if
> >> > I could find a spare moment or two, I'd take it on. The whole UI
> >> > framework beyond "widgets", like editors, views, menus, actions etc.
> >> > is a sweet spot to be sure that is missing from any of the web
> >> > frameworks, IMHO.
>
> >> > On Dec 17, 6:54 am, "Arthur Kalmenson" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> There are some things in the incubator for status bars and logging.
> >> >> The rest you would have to do yourself.
>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Arthur Kalmenson
>
> >> >> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:17 AM, Riyaz Mansoor
> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> >> > I'm not looking for rich widget sets (Ext, Smart, etc) but rather is
> >> >> > there a GWT framework that provides basics for a RIA. One that handles
> >> >> > the grunt work such as providing; status bar, xml or other
> >> >> > configurable menu, error logging report, authentication, security etc
>
> >> >> > This maybe reaching for the sky but kinda like what Eclipse or
> >> >> > Netbeans provides as the core platform when developing on those
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