On Monday, April 14, 2014 4:58:56 PM UTC-6, David Rajchenbach-Teller wrote: > I am not sure what you think we should have done. > > > > A few (I know of 4) employees of the Mozilla Foundation decided to send > > over Twitter a message calling for the resignation of Brendan. We don't > > have any power over Twitter, nor can we prevent people from expressing > > their opinion. > > > > By the way, since you mention that you were directed here by the blog of > > some Mozilla employee - could you point me to that blog? > > > > Thanks, > > David > > > > On 12/04/14 21:33, G. King wrote: > > > That article is horrible. I wouldn't recommend it to help your cause. > > > Employees of Mozilla Foundation, in my opinion, propelled this current mess > > into the size it is now. Your employees. They have put your mission,and > > everybody that works or volunteers at Mozilla in jeopardy just to receive > > kudos from like minded individuals. That is bad business to let employees > > do that and expect any different results. Of course the media will focus on > > that. It's what they do. What did you expect? > > > > > > I have used Firefox forever it seems, even when it got slow and clunky. I > > recommended it to all who would listen. I really makes me feel extremely > > bad that Mr. Eich had to resign from a company he had invested everything > > in. His whole professional life for the last 15 years I assume. I don't > > care about Gay marriage rights, or the lack thereof. I just don't care. I > > just used the browser and and believed in what Mozilla was doing. I just > > feel horrible for Mr. Eich. What a tragedy for him. > > > Whether you backed him, didn't back him, makes no difference now does it? > > You had very selfish members of Mozilla publicly call for his resignation > > as CEO. That's all the media needed, yet you defend them like they did > > nothing wrong. They did. They tainted the Mozilla brand with petty, > > selfish, self aggrandizing comments in public. If they had a bitch, why not > > bitch internally to try to change things? I think I know why. > > > > > > By the way, I am not part of some Internet induced call to protest as was > > previously implied in some other thread by you caring people at Mozilla. I > > have just been following this story because Mr. Eich's story just breaks my > > heart. I was directed here by some other response on a Mozilla site by an > > employee of Mozilla. > > > I have removed Mozilla from all devices I own and have recommended for all > > users of my website to do the same. Why you may ask? Because Mozilla > > started this by letting their employees personally call for the ousting of > > the boss instead of just quitting themselves as is done in the rest of the > > world. You should have done something about that, in only my opinion of > > course. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > governance mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance > > > > > > > > > -- > > David Rajchenbach-Teller, PhD > > Performance Team, Mozilla
I think it was referenced on Planet Mozilla, but I'm not sure, but definitely from a Mozilla site of some kind from a Mozilla person, or I would not have known this place existed, and I have read so much about this that it would take me forever to find it again. I was trying to look for some member of Mozilla sticking up for Mr. Eich when I found this joint, is my recollection. I would not have posted again if I hadn't got dinged on my phone that you had answered me. Don't worry, I know this place is for Mozilla only on a normal basis and I won't intrude on your sanctum again after this. Just the whole story intrigued me. Now, once the "brave" employees posted on Twitter, it was obviously too late, was it not? Duh. I just happen to believe that it is an incredibly dumb policy to let that happen. I don't know of a single company that allows that in the business world that I am familiar with. I believe a couple of the employees that tweeted their wishes for the boss to leave even praised the organization by saying how great it was they could do this kind of thing free from any repercussions to them personally. Quite brave of them I thought to myself when I read that. Of course a bunch of other people, like the person who built Mozilla and provided them a place to work, felt the repercussions. The reason people in the real world would get fired for this is because of exactly what has happened. Must have made Mr. Eich feel great that Mozilla people were calling for his head on the Internet. I think the policy is naive, even childlike, but it makes for some really feel good press,looks good in the employee manual, and makes the obviously cloistered and really "noble" employees of Mozilla feel like they are so very different and special. Not like the normals out here in the regular world. Unfortunately, the real world raised it's ugly head. Sucks when that happens don't it? I had no idea you guys had that "badmouth the company that provides your paycheck, it's ok" policy. Then your defense of it afterwards is really off putting to me personally, like this was all outsiders, and how great you all are, and it's just not your fault. I disagree. If I had known you guys were this touchy feely and modern and able to ignore logic, I would have never used your stuff in the first place. I mean My God, what were you thinking? What else is this brain trust of Mozilla capable of? What kind of an environment do you have there that anybody in their right mind would think this was ok to do? Creeps me out. I sure as hell don't trust ya at this point. Seems like there is no control, or adults running the show. I find it all very disgusting and dishonorable, but that's just me. I don't write code or anything like that, I just used your products. You don't owe me a thing. Thanks for responding though. _______________________________________________ governance mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance
