On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 09:06:47AM -0500, Sheeri Cabral wrote:
> 
> > afaik punching a whole in the great firewall isn't that hard (openvpn
> > might be enough?)  So if Mozilla really wants a fight providing something
> > better is at least theoretically possible.
> 
> "Can't we just..." syndrome is particularly nasty when we are talking about 
> cultural stuff we don't really know about. 

something being theoretically possible implies exactly nothing about it
being a good idea.

> I'm sure if that was the best option, that's what we would be going with. I'm 
> sure the team did their research, probably even (gasp!) talked
> to knowledgeable folks who know the situation (like Li Gong), and thought for 
> weeks/months about the issue, unlike we who have only had a few days to think 
> about it and armchair quarterback the situation. 
> 
> My guess is that while poking a firewall hole isn't hard, poking one big 
> enough for every Chinese Firefox user is either too much, too costly or too 
> dangerous to do. Same with trying to teach every individual Firefox user in 
> China how to poke their own firewall holes (to me that feels like we'd be 
> complicit in mass-treason. 

Personally I have exactly zero problem with helping people avoid unjust
laws,  but it should also be obvious I'm only speaking for myself.

Trev

> 
> Disclaimer: the above is entirely speculation and guesses by me. I have not 
> been to China, I have no family in China, just a few friends and I haven't 
> asked them about this. 
> 
> -Sheeri
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