On 1/27/2015 6:29 AM, Nikos Roussos wrote:
On 01/27/2015 05:55 AM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote:
The justification is that we are doing it wrong by defaulting to
closed decision making where not everyone can transparently see all
the discussions we have in the project.
Great post that talks about this discussion btw and the importance of open:
http://stormyscorner.com/2015/01/working-in-the-open-is-hard.html
+1 to Ben's proposal. We should default to open, unless there is a
significant reason not to. Same thing we do with mailing lists. If we
have IRC channels that seem to host more personal discussions (I'm not
aware of any), we could exclude them.
I know of IRC channels that are used for personal discussion. Sometimes they're ethereal to discuss
a situation occurring in another channel, some are more permanent. Some channels I'm in to do this
are password protected (and I assume wouldn't be logged as they're certainly "private"),
while others are "public", but we don't advertise it. *
From (kind of) following this thread it seems that the argument really boils
down to whether it should be opt-in or opt-out. (Not whether we should do it at
all or not.) It seems most people believe it is useful information to have. I
can personally attest that it is nice to be able to go back and find a
conversation and have a permanent link to it. We've been doing it for years in
#instantbird.
--Patrick
* As an aside, I don't think the answer is "OMG You shouldn't be having private
discussions"! I actually view it as a very good thing to have more personal
discussions. There are people I spend *hours* a day talking to on IRC (some of which I've
never met), yet...it's natural that some conversations tend to become more personal as
you get to know people. It's nice to not:
1. Gum up the channels we do consider public.
2. Be able to have deeper conversations that we might not want made public.
3. Can have a limited, trusted audience.
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