Quoting Tim Churches <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Horst Herb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Minix and Linux to me illustrate the battle between academia and 
> > pragmatic  engineering. Of course the pragmatic engineer will take a leaf
> out of 
> > the  academic book  and benefit from teachings and research, but what they
> do 
> > and how they do it is very, very different from academic "solutions".
> 
> I suppose we are most interested here in solutions which see the light of day
> and can thus be used by many people, not just their genius progenitor -
> regardless of where such solutions come from.
Gentlemen, please! ;-)

Both of you are quite right: Linux from the get-go was no way a Minix clone 
(32- vs 16-bit for starters).
However Linus clearly used Minix as a requirements model in the early stages, 
and as a bootstrap system.
More interestingly, he intended Linux as a 'stop-gap' measure while we 
wait for the 'offical' GNU kernel, the HURD, to emerge.
HURD parallels Gnumed in many ways: ambitious projects, totally new design, 
very complex, poor governance, and no working result so far (actually gnumed 
has done better than the HURD)

The lesson I draw is that volunteer free-software projects can achieve complex 
industry-ready outcomes,  this has been done with Linux and many others, it's 
hard to see what's so special about medicine. But they all had a humble 
starting point and grew features organically, it's true no-one in the Free 
World has built a 100% system from scratch. I refer people to Raymond's "The 
Cathedral and the Bazaar" for more around this idea.

This ties in with how I would view interaction with academia. AFAICT what 
academics (and possibly other players) want is a fairly basic but open base 
system, on top of which they can install the 'research' features such as 
decision-support, natural language coding, etc. that they want. 

So, IMHO  a "small target" is in order, not the best, just usable, focussing 
on the bread-and-butter stuff that Jon et al. isn't interesting in.

Ian

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