Horst Herb wrote: > On Monday 25 September 2006 17:51, Tim Churches wrote: >> Sorry, but frankly I am still smarting from being accused by Horst of >> spreading unfounded FUD, just because I dared suggest that it might be >> worth double checking Horst's take on RoR as the ant's pant's of Web >> application frameworks. > > You didn't check. Checking is not only allright, but highly welcome when I go > overboard with fresh enthusiasm.
I never claimed to have personally compared RoR versus the alternatives - I was suggesting that others ought to check, and not just take your word for it. > But you made false statements about RoR which I rated as FUD (eg use of Dojo > etc.) Doesn't matter, I think that bit is clarified now. That was an honest mistake, for which I apologised (and we *have* looked in detail at a *lot* of Javascript libraries over the last few months, so my confusion is I think forgivable). > You suggested that people you trust were in favour of alternatives like > Django. People that have demonstrated their worth in software development are > quoted on the RoR web site: > > “Rails is the most well thought-out web development framework I’ve ever used. > And that’s in a decade of doing web applications for a living. I’ve built my > own frameworks, helped develop the Servlet API, and have created more than > a few web servers from scratch. Nobody has done it like this before.” Yes I always believe testimonials. > This comes from no less than James Duncan Davidson, Creator of the famous > Tomcat and Ant (which are sort of competing with RoR!!!) To a hard-core Java developer, almost anything else looks fantastic... > And I can't think of any informatics student nowadays not having read the > works of Martin Fowler - and he says: > > “It is impossible not to notice Ruby on Rails. It has had a huge effect both > in and outside the Ruby community... Rails has become a standard to which > even well-established tools are comparing themselves to.” > -Martin Fowler, Author of Refactoring, PoEAA, XP Explained Yup, I don't disagree. My point is that some of those comparisons with RoR are actually returning some rather favourable results for its competitors. But maybe RoR *is* the best. I don't know and I don't really care all that much, but I don't like being taken to task for daring to ask the question. Enough. Tim C _______________________________________________ Gpcg_talk mailing list [email protected] http://ozdocit.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gpcg_talk
