>From my understanding of happenings in Kerala as well as out of Kerala, I would like to make the following observations which indirectly addresses some of the viewpoints raised here.
1. Generally, the actions of politically disadvantaged people are understood to be violent. No act whatsoever brutal that be, if commited by state or those who are in a powerful position are never labeled so. 2.State sponsored violence get legitimised in the name of people. 3.Thre is violence not only in bomb blasts and other spectacular happeniongs, but in the way in which we are imagining neighbers and strangers , even in this discussion where we participate. 4.We shouldn't in any situation be tolerent on humiliation . [ Or are we celebrating it here?] 5.Don't think that middle class is away from 'spectacular' communal violence. Just check what happened in Gujarath. 6.Do give a thought to why it is so that a minority community is considered as dangerous BY DEFENITION . On 7/31/07, deepak p <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > what you do not understand is what i am talkin is in a relative sense.. > > if there are criticisms to the kerala model of development (abt which i am > well read, i did not ask u to explain me anything), does that mean that > bangalore (or whichever city u live) is better than kerala.. > > (2).. has any other state in india fared better on these issues? > > (3).. do u know stats abt custodial deaths elsewhere (i can send u links)? > how is moral policing related to the police.. muthanga was perfectly legal > (because kerala givernment is not expected to tolerate parallel > governments).. u make an aviyal with a lot of unrelated things.. pick each > and explain how things in kerala are much worse than things elsewhere in > that context.. u need only ask urself.. > > (4).. u have to take a debate point b point.. if there are some criticisms > abt model A, it doesnt mean that anythign apart from A is much better.. if u > look at my email and ur reply, u really havent responded to 20% of what i > have written.. > > u really dont have a single valid point against "evryone knows evryone" > spaces.. u just said that that promotes fundamentalism.. i dont really see > any connection.. > > ranjit, i have nothing against you.. but i would prefer that we dont reply > to each others emails on this issue, because there doesnt seem to be any > logical continuity.. u tell something, i reply, and u tell something else, > and i reply.. it has never happened the other way.. > > > > On 7/31/07, Ranjit Ranjit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > 1) i would definitely agree that cities outside kerala have been able to > > generate more employment, but they are not close to being as progressive as > > kerala, in anything else > > > > in order to get a better understanding of the myths abt Kerala, it's > > better that u go through the debates on 'Kerala MOdel of Develpment", rather > > i waisting my time. > > > > 2) but on the other hand, the kerala society is much more sensitive to > > societal matters.. and public debates tend to be more on matters which > > matter, rather than things like above.. > > for this part, i would request u to go through Dalit/Adivasis/gender > > issues. How far is Kerala sensitive to these issues? > > > > 3) to understand kerala POLICE , just read newspapers and watch tv > > channels > > from emergency days, ISRO espionage case (u can see how imagnative > > kerala police r), encounter killings, custodial deaths, thankamai rape case, > > sexual harrasment cases, Muthanga, atrocities against Dalits/adivasis, MOral > > policiing, etc etc > > Kerala police is no differnt. > > > > 4) i m not getting away. i have answers. but if u r not in a position to > > get my point (sorry dont misunderstand me). what i mean to say is that i m > > least intersted in the 'My dad strongest" kind of debate. > > > > NB: and i think, as Murali has eloborated on his frinds case, no need > > for us further beat GEORGE BUSH!!! but i sincerely wish us to have a debate > > on KERALA as many hass a very hallowed/hollow understndg of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Dileep Raj Tel: 09447316701 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ greenyouth mailinglist is the activist support mailinglist for kerala To post to this group, send email to [email protected] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
