See my responses below, interwoven as needed.

On Aug 30, 8:59 am, Peter Hosey <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Aug 30, 2009, at 08:38:40, Dickster wrote:
>
> > Peter, I'm replying to you about your response to me which states  
> > "5. who doesn't even want to use Growl".  I DO want to use Growl,  
> > which is why I've spend so much time trying to debug it.
>
> Ah, OK.
>
> > I was trying to determine why "Show Grolw icon in menu bar" wasn't  
> > showing it from the very start of my computer session.  If you read  
> > my original posting, you can see where I was experimenting with  
> > "Show Growl icon ...". Turning Growl OFF led to the Recovered files  
> > problem, so I had to continue in that mode to try and debug that  
> > problem.
>
> OK. Now you've succeeded, so you can turn Growl back on. :-)
>
> Then we're back to your original problem of the Growl menu-bar item  
> not entering the Login Items list. This is the first we've heard of  
> any such problem, and it does not happen for me.
>
I recommend you go back and read the thread entries posted Aug 29,
11:37, 11:47, 12:39.
I believe you concluded this problem may only be fixed in Leopard, not
Tiger.

> To fix it, we need either a complete description of the nature of the  
> bug (not just symptoms but a description of where and how the code  
> goes wrong), or steps to reproduce that work for us.
>
I described what I did to "reproduce" this in the Aug 29, 11:37
posting.
Since I don't have access to source code, that's the best I can do.

> It's possible that this is a bug in Tiger itself, fixed in Leopard. If  
> that's the case, there's probably nothing we can do about it and it's  
> certainly not worth our time to work around a problem that's already  
> been fixed in shipping Mac OS X for two years.
>
> Much easier on all involved, I think, would be for you to simply add  
> GrowlMenu to the Login Items directly. Here's how you do that:
>
> 1. Find the Growl prefpane. Spotlight is the easiest way to do this.
> 2. Once you're looking at it in Finder, right-click on it and choose  
> Show Package Contents.
> 3. Open Contents, then Resources. Among the items there is  
> GrowlMenu.app.
> 4. Open System Preferences and open the Accounts pane.
> 5. Drag GrowlMenu into the Login Items list.

Well, this didn't work.  First, Spotlight couldn't find it (no idea
why).
I knew where it was from the Recovered files debugging, so I went
into System Preferences -> Accounts, unlocked the window, and
tryied to Add in the Login Items pane.  I was able to navigate all
the way to this point:  /Library/PreferencesPanes/Growl.prefPane
which I selected, but right-click did nothing.  I was stuck.  So I
launched a Terminal session and did the following:

guertin-pbdsl1:~$ cd /Library/PreferencePanes/Growl.prefPane/Contents/
Resources
guertin-pbdsl1:/Library/PreferencePanes/Growl.prefPane/Contents/
Resources dickguertin$ sudo cp -p -R GrowlMenu.app /Users/dickguertin/
Desktop/.

That put a copy of GrowlMenu.app on my Desktop.  I was able to
navigate to that point, and Add GrowlMenu (app) to my Login Items.
Hopefully, it will work.

Dickster

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