On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Dick Guertin <[email protected]>wrote:
> > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Christopher Forsythe <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Don't get me wrong, but saying something like "I don't believe what you >> say" to the one person on the team who has worked on Growl for the entire >> life of the product is not a good way to continue this conversation sir. I >> do not appreciate being called a liar. Let's keep emotion out of this Dick, >> otherwise I'm apt to not want to work with you any longer if you continue >> down this route. >> >> That preference under the General tab says, explicitly, that after $n >> seconds of inactivity, that Growl notifications will go sticky. This is true >> for every notification style except for Nano, Music Video, and Bezel, since >> those are queue'd. If you are not seeing this, you are either moving your >> mouse, typing on your keyboard, or you are the only person I know of who has >> reported this problem in 10.4.anything. To be clear, I have a 10.4 machine >> that I can, and will test this on before Friday. I bet it works fine there. >> >> I'm running Firefox 3.0.11 with a "Clear Cache Button" (version 0.9b). > When I click the button, the notification appears. I do NOT move the mouse, > or even touch it, as soon as I've finished clicking. Given the 2-second > time frame of "Leave..." in the General tab, I expect this note will go > sticky if at 2-seconds there is no activity. Since I'm not touching the > mouse or anything else after 2-seconds, I expect the note to go sticky. But > it goes away in 5 seconds. > > Does it work for any apps? The setting in general is for every app that works with Growl. > If you even move your mouse in the slightest way, that tells the system >> that you are not idle. If you graze your keyboard and it accidentally >> depresses the rubber underneath, then that also will indicate to the system >> that it is not idle. >> >> In the future, please send separate issues like these in 2 threads, not a >> single thread. You have two separate issues, the preference in the General >> tab, and the preference in the Applications tab. I prefer to work on 2 >> issues in separate email threads, as I started yesterday. If you can report >> separate issues like this in two new emails rather than a single email in >> the future, that would actually be the preferred method, since it starts 2 >> threads on Google Groups, and makes it easier for people to find in the >> future, so that their issues can be resolved without them having to start a >> new thread, if they so prefer. We moved our entire email support >> infrastructure to Google Groups because of searchability alone, and >> submitting multiple items per email doesn't help when you are looking at >> threads. >> >> The screenshot you provide indicates that for Firefox, for the General >> notification, that you are letting Firefox decide if notifications stay on >> screen. Hence "The application decides". You need to change that if you want >> Firefox to be sticky. >> >> This seems to tie together the General tab settings with the Application > settings. What I have in the General tab isn't leaving the notification on > the screen BECAUSE of the Application setting? Doesn't this make them one > issue? > The general tab's idle setting does not tie into this setting. > > Sticky settings will leave the notifications on screen for the entire life >> of the notification, until clicked on, or the X button is clicked. >> Alternatively, if there are a large amount of notifications on screen, you >> can Option+Click on a single notification's X, and all notifications on >> screen will fade away. >> >> If any of this is unclear, please reply. But please don't call me or >> anyone else a liar when they are trying to help you. You don't understand >> this product, that is our fault in that we don't document this well, but >> that's something we're working on. I appreciate your patience, but you do >> need to tone things down. We're not here to argue, we're here to help. >> >> Chris >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Dick Guertin <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> I don't believe what you say. I'm running Growl 1.1.6 on Tiger 10.4.11, >>> and I've attached a screenshot, assuming you meant me to navigate as >>> follows: System Preferences -> Growl -> Applications -> Firefox -> >>> Notifications. What you see is what was installed by Growl itself. This is >>> the "Notifications" pane for every Application in the list. Back on the >>> Main Pane, I have "Leave ..." set to 2-seconds, and the checkbox is checked, >>> which means a checkmark appears in front of "Sticky Notifications" in the >>> GrowlMenu (drop-down list from the menu icon). >>> >>> Every application that creates Notifications display them in the selected >>> location (upper-right), and 5-seconds later they disappear by themselves. >>> So, #1, they don't stay for 30-seconds, only 5-seconds, AND #2, Sticky >>> Notifications doesn't appear to work because they my Main Pane settings are >>> being ignored. It is totally unclear the relationship between "Sticky >>> Notifications" and "Application Decides". I assumed, and expected, the Main >>> Pane setting stating "Leave notifications on the screen after 2 seconds of >>> inactivity" would override "Application Decides" if the time frame >>> (2-seconds) is less than the application's time (which I can't see). In >>> other words, after 2-seconds, the Notification would STICK as long as the >>> notification is still there (application didn't delete it). But 5-seconds >>> go by, and the notification is deleted. What am I missing? >>> >>> Dickster >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:49 AM, Chris Forsythe <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> The default is 30 seconds I think for this setting. This is more for >>>> people who want to walk away and not miss notifications. So the >>>> notification >>>> will come up 30 seconds after idle starts occurring, and will stay on >>>> screen >>>> until acknowledged. >>>> Sticky doesn't have a time frame of how long to stay on screen, so once >>>> sticky, it stays on screen until acknowledged. >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> On Sep 1, 2009, at 1:33 AM, Dick Guertin wrote: >>>> >>>> So you're saying I need to set it to 1-second to get it to persist? And >>>> after >>>> 1-second, will it remain until I close it myself? What's the default >>>> time for >>>> any notice to remain on the screen? >>>> >>>> Dickster >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Chris Forsythe <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> For the inactivity setting, that's how long before things start >>>>> sticking. So for that 300, it'd be 5 minutes of no mouse, keyboard, or >>>>> any other kind of input. >>>>> >>>>> Chris >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 31, 2009, at 11:07 PM, Dickster <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > I read the Mark thread started by Martin S. Taylor (Sticky >>>>> > Notifications: I'm confused), and wanted to report that >>>>> notifications >>>>> > from Firefox, like "Cache Cleared", only stay on the screen for about >>>>> > 5 to 10 seconds, and then automatically disappear. This happens >>>>> > regardless of the "Sticky Notifications" checkmark in the GrowlMenu, >>>>> > which checks/unchecks "Leave notifications on screen after <n> >>>>> seconds >>>>> > of inactivity". But with the checkmark, and the checked box, these >>>>> > notifications from Firefox only stay a short period. I have <n> set >>>>> > at 300, or 5 minutes. I expected notifications to stay 5 minutes, >>>>> but >>>>> > they don't REGARDLESS of the state of the Sticky Notifications >>>>> > checkmark (linked to Leave... checkbox). >>>>> > >>>>> > How do I get notifications to stay for 5 minutes? I'm confused. >>>>> > (That now make two of us, Martin & me). >>>>> > >>>>> > Dickster >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Growl Discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/growldiscuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
