Ok, ok.  If you say they are not related, who am I to quibble?  But from a
novice (to Growl) user's perspective, it wasn't clear that the General tab
"Leave..." was only effective for the Application's Notification setting of
"Application decides".  As I now understand it, if the Application's
Notification setting is NEVER or ALWAYS, that's it... "Leave..." has no
effect.  I.E. "Leave..." only has effect when "Application Decides" is
chosen.  Do I have it right now?

Dickster

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Christopher Forsythe <[email protected]>wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Dick Guertin <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Christopher Forsythe 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Dick Guertin <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Christopher Forsythe 
>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Does it work for any apps? The setting in general is for every app that
>>> works with Growl.
>>>
>>>
>> According to Evan:  Idle time is checked when the notification first
>> appears. You will never be able to make a notification sticky via idleness
>> by performing an action using your mouse or keyboard.
>>
>
> I said the same thing a few times already.
>
>
>>
>>>> This seems to tie together the General tab settings with the Application
>>>> settings.   What I have in the General tab isn't leaving the notification 
>>>> on
>>>> the screen BECAUSE of the Application setting?  Doesn't this make them one
>>>> issue?
>>>>
>>>
>>> The general tab's idle setting does not tie into this setting.
>>>
>>>
>> But does the application setting affect the general setting?  If so,
>> that's the direction of the "tie" that I'm referring to.
>>
>
> No, it does not relate. Other than the end result is you get sticky
> notifications if you set things and they work appropriately.
>
> Set it to always if you want every single firefox notification to stay on
> the screen. Don't if you don't. If you want firefox to choose, pick allow
> app to choose.
>
> If you want notifications to stick on screen if you do something like walk
> away, set the idle setting in general.
>
> These two settings are not related.
>
> Chris
>
>
>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Dick Guertin 
>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't believe what you say.  I'm running Growl 1.1.6 on Tiger
>>>>>> 10.4.11, and I've attached a screenshot, assuming you meant me to 
>>>>>> navigate
>>>>>> as follows:  System Preferences -> Growl -> Applications -> Firefox ->
>>>>>> Notifications.  What you see is what was installed by Growl itself.  
>>>>>> This is
>>>>>> the "Notifications" pane for every Application in the list.  Back on the
>>>>>> Main Pane, I have "Leave ..." set to 2-seconds, and the checkbox is 
>>>>>> checked,
>>>>>> which means a checkmark appears in front of "Sticky Notifications" in the
>>>>>> GrowlMenu (drop-down list from the menu icon).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Every application that creates Notifications display them in the
>>>>>> selected location (upper-right), and 5-seconds later they disappear by
>>>>>> themselves.  So, #1, they don't stay for 30-seconds, only 5-seconds, AND 
>>>>>> #2,
>>>>>> Sticky Notifications doesn't appear to work because they my Main Pane
>>>>>> settings are being ignored.  It is totally unclear the relationship 
>>>>>> between
>>>>>> "Sticky Notifications" and "Application Decides".  I assumed, and 
>>>>>> expected,
>>>>>> the Main Pane setting stating "Leave notifications on the screen after 2
>>>>>> seconds of inactivity" would override "Application Decides" if the time
>>>>>> frame (2-seconds) is less than the application's time (which I can't 
>>>>>> see).
>>>>>> In other words, after 2-seconds, the Notification would STICK as long as 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> notification is still there (application didn't delete it).  But 
>>>>>> 5-seconds
>>>>>> go by, and the notification is deleted.  What am I missing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dickster
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:49 AM, Chris Forsythe <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The default is 30 seconds I think for this setting. This is more for
>>>>>>> people who want to walk away and not miss notifications. So the 
>>>>>>> notification
>>>>>>> will come up 30 seconds after idle starts occurring, and will stay on 
>>>>>>> screen
>>>>>>> until acknowledged.
>>>>>>> Sticky doesn't have a time frame of how long to stay on screen, so
>>>>>>> once sticky, it stays on screen until acknowledged.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2009, at 1:33 AM, Dick Guertin wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you're saying I need to set it to 1-second to get it to persist?
>>>>>>> And after
>>>>>>> 1-second, will it remain until I close it myself?  What's the default
>>>>>>> time for
>>>>>>> any notice to remain on the screen?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dickster
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Chris Forsythe <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For the inactivity setting, that's how long before things start
>>>>>>>> sticking. So for that 300, it'd be 5 minutes of no mouse, keyboard,
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> any other kind of input.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2009, at 11:07 PM, Dickster <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > I read the Mark thread started by Martin S. Taylor (Sticky
>>>>>>>> > Notifications: I'm confused), and wanted  to report that
>>>>>>>> notifications
>>>>>>>> > from Firefox, like "Cache Cleared", only stay on the screen for
>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>> > 5 to 10 seconds, and then automatically disappear.  This happens
>>>>>>>> > regardless of the "Sticky Notifications" checkmark in the
>>>>>>>> GrowlMenu,
>>>>>>>> > which checks/unchecks "Leave notifications on screen after <n>
>>>>>>>> seconds
>>>>>>>> > of inactivity".  But with the checkmark, and the checked box,
>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>> > notifications from Firefox only stay a short period.  I have <n>
>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>> > at 300, or 5 minutes.  I expected notifications to stay 5 minutes,
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> > they don't REGARDLESS of the state of the Sticky Notifications
>>>>>>>> > checkmark (linked to Leave... checkbox).
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > How do I get notifications to stay for 5 minutes?  I'm confused.
>>>>>>>> > (That now make two of us, Martin & me).
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Dickster
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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>
> >
>

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