On 17 Aug 2006 at 17:07, Erik Holmes wrote: > Magic is both cheaper > and more powerful in 4e. The big problem with this is that it got more > powerful while other character classes like fighters and thieves were > weakened.
Really? How's that? Physical skills are cheaper now, and extra HP are cheaper now (and come as part of ST, which IME 'fighter' types bought up higher than HT). > Psionics aren't balanced in 4e, they are just way overpriced. They are > still just as abusive as they were in 3e. Now it's just nearly > impossibly to make a well rounded Psi. Plus it takes forever to make one > now since you have to 'build' all of the abilities that aren't included > in the new edition. So costing more for what you get is just as bad? > LOL, well I forgot to mention that my 75 point fencer also had Weapons > Master, Extra Attack and other things. Don't get me wrong, he was only > good at fencing, but you couldn’t have made a fencer half as good > as he was in 3e for that many points. So he fenced with a sword in each hand? > > And in 3e using extended Magery rules the 205 points you spent on > > > IQ+Magery would buy IQ17 + Magery-7, which is only one point lower in > > > terms of IQ+Magery, still lets you buy all spells at 20+ for one > > point, > > > and makes your mental skills even cheaper. How is 4e more broken? > > Well, for one thing, characters usually have more points in 4e then in > 3e. A 200 point character in 4e is an average character, 200 points in > 3e is a big deal. No, the average is 150 points in 4e. > Also, the 4e character is throwing around 30d > fireballs compared to the 3e characters 7d fireballs. The skill level > isn't as important as what the mage can do with it IMO. And those 30d fireballs cost nigh on 30 fatigue. Honestly, if the mage is wasting his time on fireballs, I'm not going to be too worried. There are other much more abusive things that can be done with magic (and they can be done in 3e as well if the Grimoire is available). -- Rupert Boleyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _______________________________________________ GurpsNet-L mailing list <[email protected]> http://mail.sjgames.com/mailman/listinfo/gurpsnet-l
