On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 08:00:02PM +0100, Onno Meyer wrote:
>The problem is that they don't really look like ducted fans. 
>How fast has the air to go through those little nozzles?

Each square metre of nozzle/rotor/etc. exhausting air at jet engine
speed can provide about 10kN of thrust*. A full-up Apache at 10,433kg
(MTOW) would need 10.4m^2 of exhaust area to get off the ground. (Its
actual rotor has an area of 168m^2, so it actually needs to throw air
downwards at only 22m/s.) What's the MTOW of the vehicle?

* thrust/area = airdensity * speed^2
  modern jet engine exhaust speed = ~200mph
  standard air density = 1.225kg/m^3
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