Onno,

Your comment about flanking got me thinking...you don't need to use the
entire suit to flank.  Even now we have grenades that can flank.  I'd think
that a single non-flying human supported by a cadre of drones would be more
effective than a single man in a flying suit.  I think another question is
how much cover helps.  If I can hide behind a concrete wall and it provides
cover and concealment, great.  If I'm in an environment that's so lethal
that the car doesn't matter and I can expect to be detected anyway...that
sort of negates the whole purpose of hiding behind it.

On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 2:23 AM, Onno Meyer <[email protected]> wrote:

> Using the old Vehicles rules, at TL10 and below flight capability for
> powered armor or battlesuits comes with serious drawbacks. Ducted fans and
> power cells are heavy, fusion rockets have a bad infrared (and visual)
> signature. At TL12 and above contragrav and reactionless thrusters are so
> effective that any suit would have either internal or detachable flight
> packs.
>
> That leaves TL11. Flight capability will take a serious bite out of the
> mass for armor, stealth, or armament, but it can be done. Is it worth it?
>
> A related question is how much stealth a 'credible' battlesuit needs. With
> stealth, I mean radar stealth, emission cloaking, sound baffling, etc. With
> an area of 45 sf, basic stealth, basic emission cloaking, basic sound
> baffling, and intruder chameleon are 81 lbs. Almost the weight of four
> spare rE cells on hardpoints ...
>
> Scenario 1: Flight is suicide, and stealth stops to work the first time
> the suit goes prone in the mud. Armor and armament are the main priorities.
>
> Scenario 2: Flight is still suicide, but TL11 stealth should be workable
> for suits. Perhaps it includes some self-cleaning top layer. Being unseen
> is at least as important as being bulletproof.
>
> Scenario 2a: As above, but with maneuvering thrusters for zero or very low
> gravity. The Space Marine variant?
>
> Scenario 2b: Flight packs are an optional extra, they can be swapped for
> heavier weapons or more endurance.
>
> Scenario 3: Two-dimensional maneuver is outdated. If you cannot fly, you
> will be outflanked by those who can.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Regards,
> Onno
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