Hello Gary, I don't want to comment as to whether or not I think FS has a decent legal case. Fortunately, since I'm not a lawyer, it wouldn't make much difference anyhow. In any event, FS shouldn't proceed for corporate citizenship, innovation and public relations reasons.
In the meantime, if I were Doug and gang, I would change the name of the placemarkers feature to something else entirely, and slightly change the way it works. It could be set up in such a way as to allow the user to simply assign a hotkey to perform an automatic find or reverse find for the specified text on the page. Perhaps, other useful attributes could be included in such a search, but the key aspect would be the ability to utilize a single command to perform a query against a web page for productivity purposes. Right now, I'm thinking about the wording on such a petition. I'm struggling slightly, as I want to support GW without commenting on the strength of the legal situation. It just isn't quite as clear cut to me as was the Serotek matter. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "GW-Info" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:05 PM Subject: Re: Building on prior thoughts for action. Darrell, I will be happy to sign an online petition in this case as I did in the Serotek case. However, I'm not sure how much it helped in that case since Serotek basically gave FS what it wanted and renamed their products. I certainly wouldn't want to see a similar settlement in this case. We don't want to start losing superior screen reader features because of a lawsuit settlement. It looks like FS is just trying to slow down the development of Window-Eyes because they see the handwriting on the wall. They obviously know that GW Micro is using a different technique to implement their PlaceMarker feature since the FS method of counting HTML tags breaks down when the page changes, and GW Micro's method of finding a string of text on a page works regardless of changes. I guess FS is not too concerned about the opinions of blind consumers since they were willing to file another lawsuit against their competition so soon after the last one, but hopefully, the results of this one will be quite different. Gary King [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:52 PM Subject: Re: Building on prior thoughts for action. > Hello J.J., > > I am aware of at least two cases where an online petition was helpful in > resolving concerns: > > 1. My CAPTCHA petition back in 2006 helped to encourage Google to roll out > their audio alternative. > 2. The Save Serotek petition was helpful in pressuring FS to settle that > lawsuit last year. > > I know these things from sources I consider to be quite reliable. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "gw Micro Mailing LIst" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:33 AM > Subject: Re: Building on prior thoughts for action. > > > I've never seen much success with online petitions, unfortunately. > I'd be curious if the ACB or NFB would do anything, though FS is a major > financial contributor to both. > > J.J. > > www.BlindBargains.com > Deals, news, and resources for the blind and visually impaired > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:30 PM > Subject: Re: Building on prior thoughts for action. > > >> Hello Everyone, >> >> What are your thoughts about an online petition, similar to the Serotek >> case >> last year? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:27 AM >> Subject: Re: Building on prior thoughts for action. >> >> >> Very good thoughts too! >> Do not underestimate people power! >> >> At 19:19 24/07/2008, you wrote: >>> > Listers, >>> > >>>Seeing that this is a public forum, I would like to recommend some ideas. >>> >>> Besides wishing GW luck with their legal issue, I would propose that >>> there is something that we, as users, can do. Here are a few thoughts. >>> >>> 1. Aproach NFB and ACB to see if they would be willing to condemn this >>> action. Hopefully, in the form of a resolution. >>> >>> 2. Spread word far and wide using as many outlets for blindness issues >>> as possible. >>> >>> 3. Call, email and/or postal mail FS and let them know how you feel. >>> >>> 4. Avoid FS products where possible. Also, recommend to others that >>> they do the same. >>> >>> 5. At conventions or seminars, avoid FS booths. >>> >>> These are strictly my thoughts. >>> > >>> > With Warmest Regards.. Joe Lanier >>> >>>==================================== >>> >>> >>>If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >>>sender only. 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