One thing you can try is to use one of the "toggle all voices" hotkeys,
which are undefined by default.  I used to use Windows-z for Zap speech in a
SET file for a mostly self-voicing application.

Lloyd Rasmussen, W3IUU, Kensington, Maryland
Home:  http://lras.home.sprynet.com
Work:  http://www.loc.gov/nls
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael McGhee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 10:07 AM
> To: 'jim grimsby Jr.'; 'net bat'
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: be quiet window-eyes!
> 
> Like Jim, this is a new one on me, but I will take this into consideration
> for the future.  I have always associated the silent.000 set file with
> self voicing applications and have never had any problems using them.  As
> for a hot key to reload window-eyes to do certain functions like lists in
> the application, does self voicing not stretch to this, and if not them
> its not really self voicing, is it?
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: jim grimsby Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 25 October 2008 21:39
> To: 'net bat'
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: be quiet window-eyes!
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you for the information. I myself have not seen a self voicing
> application that requires this. However, I will keep this in mind for
> future reference.
> 
> 
> 
> From: net bat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 1:25 PM
> To: jim grimsby Jr.
> Subject: Re: be quiet window-eyes!
> 
> 
> 
>       it depends on the running program.
> 
> 
> 
>       like if you can only find and click on a button with the mouse. you
> could still use a hot key or setup a cursor key to move the mouse to a
> window where a button is and click on it useing a hot key you have setup.
> but if the hot keys are turned off in the general menu like the silent set
> file is your new hot keys would also be disabled and would not work. with
> only the voice off you would still have any hot key you setup
> 
>       you could even use a hot key to load another set file  with speech
> on if you needed if there is part of the screen or a pull down menu where
> you need w e speech to access them.
> 
>       you just have alot more options if  the hot keys  and cursor keys
> are still on.
> 
>       ----- Original Message -----
> 
>       From: jim grimsby Jr. <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>       To: 'net bat' <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>       Cc: [email protected]
> 
>       Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 1:03 PM
> 
>       Subject: RE: be quiet window-eyes!
> 
> 
> 
>       Ok and if you turn off the voice for this program what on earth
> would be the point of the keys?  It is not like they are going to speak.
> 
>       Sorry I am not getting this one.
> 
> 
> 
>       From: net bat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 12:50 PM
>       To: jim grimsby Jr.
>       Subject: Re: be quiet window-eyes!
> 
> 
> 
>       unlike openbook, i doubt  the self talking programs mentioned would
> be useing the  w e or jaws keyboard layout.
> 
>       the silent set file disables everything. you can not use the mouse
> hot keys like mouse to cursor , cursor to mouse, the mouse clip keys , the
> w e search option if you need it etc.
> 
>       if you open the current set file associated with the program and
> only turn off the voice in the general menu all the hot keys would still
> be active.
> 
>               ----- Original Message -----
> 
>               From: jim grimsby Jr. <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>               To: 'net bat' <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>               Cc: [email protected]
> 
>               Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 12:17 PM
> 
>               Subject: RE: be quiet window-eyes!
> 
> 
> 
>               And why wouldn't you want thyis in all self voicing
programs.
> I mean if you turn off the voice you are not going to want keyboard
> conflicts right?
> 
> 
> 
>               From: net bat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>               Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 10:04 AM
>               To: Michael McGhee; 'Lou Burton'; [email protected]
>               Subject: Re: be quiet window-eyes!
> 
> 
> 
>               all you have to do is open the set file your programs are
> useing and go to the general menu and turn off the voice. then save the
> set file.
> 
>               you do not want to use the silent.000 set file. it is setup
> for openbook and all of the hot keys and short cut keys are disabled so
> they do not conflict with openbook.
> 
>                       ----- Original Message -----
> 
>                       From: Michael McGhee <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>                       To: 'Lou Burton' <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  ; gw-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>                       Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:28 AM
> 
>                       Subject: RE: be quiet window-eyes!
> 
> 
> 
>                       Hi
> 
>                       You need to run your self voicing application then
enter
> the window-eyes
>                       control panel.  Open the set file silent.000 and
then
> associate this set
>                       file with your running application.
> 
> 
> 
>                       Michael
> 
> 
> 
>                       -----Original Message-----
>                       From: Lou Burton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>                       Sent: 25 October 2008 16:25
>                       To: [email protected]
>                       Subject: be quiet window-eyes!
> 
>                       I know it has probably been covered before, but I
have a
> few
>                       self-voicing programs that wineyes just wants to
talk
> along with, and
>                       i can't find me a way to tell it to be quiet and let
the
> other
>                       program talk all by it's lonlies.
> 
>                       Any ideas?
> 
>                       Thanks much, lou
>                       Life may not be the party we hoped for... but while
we
> are here we
>                       might as well dance!
> 

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