Hi Michael, No problem, I have been wrong before and am willing to admit it now! I stand corrected! I am glad to hear that the number one item requested for 7.0 is what you guys made happen. I would be interested to see what was next in the request line for 7.0 ... not a single item but, generally about what features. Can you Please tell us the items most requested / suggested for the next release? Just the top few will be fine. Next are you guys interested in a list from the email list? I know you monitor but, if we keep track of it and send it in to you guys from time to time is that helpful? I realize you guys can't tell us all that you are doing, and I also respect that timing is hard to predict. But, can you give us a general idea of timing and in general what are we likely to see in the future?
For example when will we expect to see the next beta ... March October? Just a loose idea is great. Even microsoft gives way in advance a loose time frame about what is coming. For example ... I have heard that gw was working on java for over 6 years and I haven't seen any thing until now and a volunteer scripter is making it happen. I realize that you all added scripting making it possible and that's great. But, when I heard about possible java support a long time ago I was expecting it for several releases and heard nothing. Maybe that's why we are all so uptight about this is because we have no idea if browse mode will be in 2014! I know I am being extreem but, it's to draw a point. We don't mean to complain but, we are truly worried about the future of access. I think most of us don't mean to be so difficult but, when jobs are on the line and our main interface to the world is in question ... well, we just get much more testy than we should. Thanks for your patience with us and we hope to provide positive feedback and hope to provide input of value. Thanks so much for listening. Sam Bushman ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael D. Lawler To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 1:51 PM Subject: Re: Questions and thoughts about the direction of Window Eyes Sam you state that scripting isn't something that people were begging for. With all due respect you are simply wrong on this. The gw-info list represents a small percentage of our customers and we use input from all customers not just members of this list to guide development. Scripting was by far the number one request we received before the release of 7.0. At 01:08 PM 12/8/2008, you wrote: Hi Cory, I agree with what you say below. I agree that scripting is powerful. I agree that it's nice to have. I just mean in relationship to some of the other things that we have been talking about. The 4 main things speech loss recovery, japa, fixed browse mode and support for 64Bit OS. I think your point is valid and hopefully you are right. But, let's stick to the things people have been begging for ... and scripting was not one of them. Sam ----- Original Message ----- From: Cory Samaha To: 'Sam bushman' ; [email protected] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 10:30 AM Subject: RE: Questions and thoughts about the direction of Window Eyes Hi, Just wanted to make a point that I didn't see brought up yet. You say you have no use for scripting, but then you say you want java support. The thing is, you really do want scripting, you just don't know it yet smile. With the power of scripting a 3rd party can write java support and even perhaps collaborate with GW Micro so that the Java support is one day incorporated as a script that comes with a future version of Window-Eyes. I don't think some people realize the power of scripting. It is so much more than what some people realize. By the way while I'm writing, put my vote in for a 64-bit version of Window-Eyes as well. Cory From: Sam bushman [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 2:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Questions and thoughts about the direction of Window Eyes Hi all, It seems to me that there have been several people on this list that have had problems with the latest version of WE. I have been one of them at times. Others seem to have the product work perfectly out of the box and haven't experienced any of the troubles that others have. I know GW is doing there very best to duplicate and resolve any issues that arise. I do think 7.01 is much more stable and responsive than 7.0 was and that is a good thing. I also agree that if you turn scripting off ... the software becomes much more stable on some machines as well. I realize that each machine is different ... has different software installed etc and that truly has a huge affect on how WE works because there are so many variables involved. Some have turned to attacking the GW staff and others have completely been unwilling to even install / use 7.x. Still others seem to be doing great with out problems to speak of. Last there are most of us who live with the short comings of the software and do our best in spite of it all. No matter what camp you are in ... I believe that it would be good to set aside our differences and see if we could all come together and work towards solutions. Several have mentioned that we need a tiny speech program to run when WE loses speech. That is what I have pushed for with out any real response. I know that GW has not been willing in the past to discuss features that will be included in the next versions of WE. To some degree I understand this because it's hard to know in advance what issues may crop up etc. However, I do believe that a general priority list may be helpful. For example we have been told that after 7.0 they will rewrite browse mode. But, we have no idea when ... 7.5 9.0 11.6 etc? We do know it's coming but, that's all we know. We have no idea how many changes / features are before this one. I would like to ask GW Micro on this list if they will provide a general idea of what they are working on and in general in what order and a loose general time frame for completion. I bought an SMA just before the release of 7.0 to decrease costs and to make sure I received a CD for each release. But, none of the features I really need appeared in 7.x. I got a cd for 7.0 but, now that 7.01 is out I don't even have a cd for the latest install. So, to make things clear ... I am not even sure what I am doing running 7.01. In general we got the following in 7.x. 1. Scripting. 2. Some bugs fixed but, I am not sure we should be paying for bug fixes. 3. Itunes support. I don't need any of the above. Now the things I really need and things I was hoping for in 7.x (I really hope for in the next release but, have no idea if we will get). These are in no particular order. 1. Losing speech kept to a minumim. This problem has become worse not better over time. 2. Stable fixed browse mode. Needs to let me switch back and forth between programs that use it with out problems. 3. JAVA Support. 4. Support for 64Bit OS. We are truly at a disadvantage when we go computer shopping with out it. Is there any way to develop a list of items of most importance? Is there any way to have the list members help GW understand our wants and needs as the software moves forward with further development? Setting aside our own personal needs can we as a group agree on what things should be at the top of the list? Is there any way for the GW staff to give us some idea of what criteria they use in deciding on what the next feature set will be? Is some one on the GW staff willing to create this list with all of our input? Please only write messages to the list regarding this message if you are interested in adding something to the discussion. If you are just going to tell me ... we already have this and we don't need that ... I frankly don't want to hear it. If you are going to try to protect GW don't waste your time, I am not attacking them. I am trying to see if we as a group can productively focus on things we need the most in our access solution. Thanks so much. Sam Bushman __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3672 (20081208) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. 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