Hi Larry,
thanks for joining me in this quest to help GW with productive ideas
for future development of what I currently believe to be the best
screen reader on the market.
Our goal should be to make sure it stays that way.
Some have said that we don't want to mention the things we are
working on because our competition will get the info:
I said before:
Now the things I really need and things I was hoping for in 7.x (I really
hope for in the next release but, have no idea if we will get).
These are in no particular order.
1. Losing speech kept to a minumim.
This problem has become worse not better over time.
O, I sure hope our competition does get ahold of that ... they might
hmhm on second thought ... let them take a page out of our playbook. haha!
2. Stable fixed browse mode.
Needs to let me switch back and forth between programs that use it with
out problems.
This is nothing more than updates to a current feature not even
really new functionality.
What would they be able to do with that?
3. JAVA Support.
Like the other screen readers don't know that this is something that
all of them should eventually add.
4. Support for 64Bit OS.
We are truly at a disadvantage when we go computer shopping with out it.
Again do the other screen readers really need to monitor us to see
that they will eventually need to support this?
O, I forgot that some already support this.
Maybe we should take a page out of there playbook.
I agree if gw has something truly innovative that they need to keep
under wraps before release I understand and respect this.
But, the above mentioned items surely don't qualify as that.
Is there any way to develop a list of items of most importance?
I sure hope so and I have even provided a great start.
Is there any way to have the list members help GW understand our wants and
needs as the software moves forward with further development?
I hope so but, all I have recieved is a bunch of nay-sayers so far.
Setting aside our own personal needs can we as a group agree on what
things should be at the top of the list?
This is what we should be working towards and something we should pray for.
Is there any way for the GW staff to give us some idea of what criteria
they use in deciding on what the next feature set will be?
I think for the most part yes.
Again I realize that from time to time with truly innovative stuff
they may not tell us about it prematurely.
This is as it should be.
Is some one on the GW staff willing to create this list with all of our
input?
I hope so because then they will truly consider our ideas and the
chances are greatly increased that they will make there way in to the software.
If not, then one of us should keep the list and keep gw in the loop
on our list of ideas.
I am trying to see if we as a group can productively focus on things we
need the most in our access solution.
Thanks so much for your post Larry ... I truly hope we can all start
to focus on the things that will provide gw with info and help us
all obtain great screen access!
After all, That's what we are here for.
Thanks again.
Sam Bushman
----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Naessens"
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To: "Sam bushman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: Questions and thoughts about the direction of Window Eyes
I firmly believe that what you have laid out here would be a
constructive direction for the list to follow. To be honest, I have
been seriously considering leaving the group, as it seems to have
evolved into a forum consisting of GW defenders versus Those of us
who were trying to find their way through problem situations.
If our forum's intent is going to be to constructively assist those
who are having issues while offering constructive suggestions on
how to improve the product, then I will stay with pleasure. If my
every problem with the product is going to be met with the sort of
hate mail which has been sent by certain group members to me
exclusively without sharing their invectives with the group for
reasons that I truly cannot sort out, then I will wish you all well
and move on. Candidly, I don't welcome that sort of spam.
Truly, I would rather stay and be a positive force. But I cannot be
a defender of the group's status quo. I am intrigued by what you
have suggested here Sam and truly hope that it will represent the
group's direction. If it does, I will be an enthusiastic member.
Larry
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----- Original Message ----- From: Sam bushman
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 2:17 PM
Subject: Questions and thoughts about the direction of Window Eyes
Hi all,
It seems to me that there have been several people on this list
that have had problems with the latest version of WE.
I have been one of them at times.
Others seem to have the product work perfectly out of the box and
haven't experienced any of the troubles that others have.
I know GW is doing there very best to duplicate and resolve any
issues that arise.
I do think 7.01 is much more stable and responsive than 7.0 was
and that is a good thing.
I also agree that if you turn scripting off ... the software
becomes much more stable on some machines as well.
I realize that each machine is different ... has different
software installed etc and that truly has a huge affect on how WE
works because there are so many variables involved.
Some have turned to attacking the GW staff and others have
completely been unwilling to even install / use 7.x.
Still others seem to be doing great with out problems to speak of.
Last there are most of us who live with the short comings of the
software and do our best in spite of it all.
No matter what camp you are in ... I believe that it would be
good to set aside our differences and see if we could all come
together and work towards solutions.
Several have mentioned that we need a tiny speech program to run
when WE loses speech.
That is what I have pushed for with out any real response.
I know that GW has not been willing in the past to discuss
features that will be included in the next versions of WE.
To some degree I understand this because it's hard to know in
advance what issues may crop up etc.
However, I do believe that a general priority list may be helpful.
For example we have been told that after 7.0 they will rewrite browse mode.
But, we have no idea when ... 7.5 9.0 11.6 etc?
We do know it's coming but, that's all we know.
We have no idea how many changes / features are before this one.
I would like to ask GW Micro on this list if they will provide a
general idea of what they are working on and in general in what
order and a loose general time frame for completion.
I bought an SMA just before the release of 7.0 to decrease costs
and to make sure I received a CD for each release.
But, none of the features I really need appeared in 7.x.
I got a cd for 7.0 but, now that 7.01 is out I don't even have a
cd for the latest install.
So, to make things clear ... I am not even sure what I am doing
running 7.01.
In general we got the following in 7.x.
1. Scripting.
2. Some bugs fixed but, I am not sure we should be paying for bug fixes.
3. Itunes support.
I don't need any of the above.
Now the things I really need and things I was hoping for in 7.x
(I really hope for in the next release but, have no idea if we will get).
These are in no particular order.
1. Losing speech kept to a minumim.
This problem has become worse not better over time.
2. Stable fixed browse mode.
Needs to let me switch back and forth between programs that use
it with out problems.
3. JAVA Support.
4. Support for 64Bit OS.
We are truly at a disadvantage when we go computer shopping with out it.
Is there any way to develop a list of items of most importance?
Is there any way to have the list members help GW understand our
wants and needs as the software moves forward with further development?
Setting aside our own personal needs can we as a group agree on
what things should be at the top of the list?
Is there any way for the GW staff to give us some idea of what
criteria they use in deciding on what the next feature set will be?
Is some one on the GW staff willing to create this list with all
of our input?
Please only write messages to the list regarding this message if
you are interested in adding something to the discussion.
If you are just going to tell me ... we already have this and we
don't need that ... I frankly don't want to hear it.
If you are going to try to protect GW don't waste your time, I am
not attacking them.
I am trying to see if we as a group can productively focus on
things we need the most in our access solution.
Thanks so much.
Sam Bushman
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