Hi Cory,

I agree with what you say below.
I agree that scripting is powerful.
I agree that it's nice to have.
I just mean in relationship to some of the other things that we have been 
talking about.
The 4 main things speech loss recovery, japa, fixed browse mode and support for 
64Bit OS.
I think your point is valid and hopefully you are right.
But, let's stick to the things people have been begging for ... and scripting 
was not one of them.
Sam

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Cory Samaha 
  To: 'Sam bushman' ; [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 10:30 AM
  Subject: RE: Questions and thoughts about the direction of Window Eyes


  Hi,

   

  Just wanted to make a point that I didn't see brought up yet.  You say you 
have no use for scripting, but then you say you want java support.  The thing 
is, you really do want scripting, you just don't know it yet smile.  With the 
power of scripting a 3rd party can write java support and even perhaps 
collaborate with GW Micro so that the Java support is one day incorporated as a 
script that comes with a future version of Window-Eyes.  I don't think some 
people realize the power of scripting.  It is so much more than what some 
people realize.

   

  By the way while I'm writing, put my vote in for a 64-bit version of 
Window-Eyes as well.

   

  Cory

   

  From: Sam bushman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 2:17 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Questions and thoughts about the direction of Window Eyes

   

  Hi all,

   

  It seems to me that there have been several people on this list that have had 
problems with the latest version of WE.

  I have been one of them at times.

  Others seem to have the product work perfectly out of the box and haven't 
experienced any of the troubles that others have.

  I know GW is doing there very best to duplicate and resolve any issues that 
arise.

  I do think 7.01 is much more stable and responsive than 7.0 was and that is a 
good thing.

  I also agree that if you turn scripting off ... the software becomes much 
more stable on some machines as well.

  I realize that each machine is different ... has different software installed 
etc and that truly has a huge affect on how WE works because there are so many 
variables involved.

  Some have turned to attacking the GW staff and others have completely been 
unwilling to even install / use 7.x.

  Still others seem to be doing great with out problems to speak of.

  Last there are most of us who live with the short comings of the software and 
do our best in spite of it all.

  No matter what camp you are in ... I believe that it would be good to set 
aside our differences and see if we could all come together and work towards 
solutions.

  Several have mentioned that we need a tiny speech program to run when WE 
loses speech.

  That is what I have pushed for with out any real response.

   

  I know that GW has not been willing in the past to discuss features that will 
be included in the next versions of WE.

  To some degree I understand this because it's hard to know in advance what 
issues may crop up etc.

   

  However, I do believe that a general priority list may be helpful.

  For example we have been told that after 7.0 they will rewrite browse mode.

  But, we have no idea when ... 7.5  9.0  11.6 etc?

  We do know it's coming but, that's all we know.

  We have no idea how many changes / features are before this one.

  I would like to ask GW Micro on this list if they will provide a general idea 
of what they are working on and in general in what order and a loose general 
time frame for completion.

   

  I bought an SMA just before the release of 7.0 to decrease costs and to make 
sure I received a CD for each release.

  But, none of the features I really need appeared in 7.x.

  I got a cd for 7.0 but, now that 7.01 is out I don't even have a cd for the 
latest install.

  So, to make things clear ... I am not even sure what I am doing running 7.01.

   

  In general we got the following in 7.x.

  1.  Scripting.

  2. Some bugs fixed but, I am not sure we should be paying for bug fixes.

  3.  Itunes support.

  I don't need any of the above.

   

  Now the things I really need and things I was hoping for in 7.x (I really 
hope for in the next release but, have no idea if we will get).

  These are in no particular order.

   

  1.  Losing speech kept to a minumim.

  This problem has become worse not better over time.

  2.  Stable fixed browse mode.

  Needs to let me switch back and forth between programs that use it with out 
problems.

  3.  JAVA Support.

  4. Support for 64Bit OS.

  We are truly at a disadvantage when we go computer shopping with out it.

   

  Is there any way to develop a list of items of most importance?

  Is there any way to have the list members help GW understand our wants and 
needs as the software moves forward with further development?

  Setting aside our own personal needs can we as a group agree on what things 
should be at the top of the list?
  Is there any way for the GW staff to give us some idea of what criteria they 
use in deciding on what the next feature set will be?

  Is some one on the GW staff willing to create this list with all of our input?

   

  Please only write messages to the list regarding this message if you are 
interested in adding something to the discussion.

  If you are just going to tell me ... we already have this and we don't need 
that ... I frankly don't want to hear it.

  If you are going to try to protect GW don't waste your time, I am not 
attacking them.

  I am trying to see if we as a group can productively focus on things we need 
the most in our access solution.

  Thanks so much.

   

  Sam Bushman

   



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