Sam you state that scripting isn't something that people were begging
for. With all due respect you are simply wrong on this. The gw-info
list represents a small percentage of our customers and we use input
from all customers not just members of this list to guide
development. Scripting was by far the number one request we received
before the release of 7.0.
At 01:08 PM 12/8/2008, you wrote:
Hi Cory,
I agree with what you say below.
I agree that scripting is powerful.
I agree that it's nice to have.
I just mean in relationship to some of the other things that we have
been talking about.
The 4 main things speech loss recovery, japa, fixed browse mode and
support for 64Bit OS.
I think your point is valid and hopefully you are right.
But, let's stick to the things people have been begging for ... and
scripting was not one of them.
Sam
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cory Samaha
To: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'Sam bushman' ;
<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 10:30 AM
Subject: RE: Questions and thoughts about the direction of Window Eyes
Hi,
Just wanted to make a point that I didn't see brought up yet. You
say you have no use for scripting, but then you say you want java
support. The thing is, you really do want scripting, you just don't
know it yet smile. With the power of scripting a 3rd party can
write java support and even perhaps collaborate with GW Micro so
that the Java support is one day incorporated as a script that comes
with a future version of Window-Eyes. I don't think some people
realize the power of scripting. It is so much more than what some
people realize.
By the way while I'm writing, put my vote in for a 64-bit version of
Window-Eyes as well.
Cory
From: Sam bushman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 2:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Questions and thoughts about the direction of Window Eyes
Hi all,
It seems to me that there have been several people on this list that
have had problems with the latest version of WE.
I have been one of them at times.
Others seem to have the product work perfectly out of the box and
haven't experienced any of the troubles that others have.
I know GW is doing there very best to duplicate and resolve any
issues that arise.
I do think 7.01 is much more stable and responsive than 7.0 was and
that is a good thing.
I also agree that if you turn scripting off ... the software becomes
much more stable on some machines as well.
I realize that each machine is different ... has different software
installed etc and that truly has a huge affect on how WE works
because there are so many variables involved.
Some have turned to attacking the GW staff and others have
completely been unwilling to even install / use 7.x.
Still others seem to be doing great with out problems to speak of.
Last there are most of us who live with the short comings of the
software and do our best in spite of it all.
No matter what camp you are in ... I believe that it would be good
to set aside our differences and see if we could all come together
and work towards solutions.
Several have mentioned that we need a tiny speech program to run
when WE loses speech.
That is what I have pushed for with out any real response.
I know that GW has not been willing in the past to discuss features
that will be included in the next versions of WE.
To some degree I understand this because it's hard to know in
advance what issues may crop up etc.
However, I do believe that a general priority list may be helpful.
For example we have been told that after 7.0 they will rewrite browse mode.
But, we have no idea when ... 7.5 9.0 11.6 etc?
We do know it's coming but, that's all we know.
We have no idea how many changes / features are before this one.
I would like to ask GW Micro on this list if they will provide a
general idea of what they are working on and in general in what
order and a loose general time frame for completion.
I bought an SMA just before the release of 7.0 to decrease costs and
to make sure I received a CD for each release.
But, none of the features I really need appeared in 7.x.
I got a cd for 7.0 but, now that 7.01 is out I don't even have a cd
for the latest install.
So, to make things clear ... I am not even sure what I am doing running 7.01.
In general we got the following in 7.x.
1. Scripting.
2. Some bugs fixed but, I am not sure we should be paying for bug fixes.
3. Itunes support.
I don't need any of the above.
Now the things I really need and things I was hoping for in 7.x (I
really hope for in the next release but, have no idea if we will get).
These are in no particular order.
1. Losing speech kept to a minumim.
This problem has become worse not better over time.
2. Stable fixed browse mode.
Needs to let me switch back and forth between programs that use it
with out problems.
3. JAVA Support.
4. Support for 64Bit OS.
We are truly at a disadvantage when we go computer shopping with out it.
Is there any way to develop a list of items of most importance?
Is there any way to have the list members help GW understand our
wants and needs as the software moves forward with further development?
Setting aside our own personal needs can we as a group agree on what
things should be at the top of the list?
Is there any way for the GW staff to give us some idea of what
criteria they use in deciding on what the next feature set will be?
Is some one on the GW staff willing to create this list with all of our input?
Please only write messages to the list regarding this message if you
are interested in adding something to the discussion.
If you are just going to tell me ... we already have this and we
don't need that ... I frankly don't want to hear it.
If you are going to try to protect GW don't waste your time, I am
not attacking them.
I am trying to see if we as a group can productively focus on things
we need the most in our access solution.
Thanks so much.
Sam Bushman
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