Hi All,
I really do like my Braille Sense Classic.
For me it works very well.
I like entering things in Braille Grade 2 when possible.
They are easier to carry and do not require as much knowledge of Computers.
If you waited for me to use my Desktop with Window Eyes You would still be 
waiting.
Personally, I think you should use whatever works for you.
Maybe a PC DOES MORE FOR SOME BUT FOR ME THE Braille Sense works well and I can 
truly feel comfortable using it.
I feel like the whole world has opened for me using email on the Web onmy 
Braille Sense.
I think it's a matter of choice.
I also think that it's nice to have everything together for ease of carrying.
Colleen Roth


----- Original Message -----
From: "Darren Harris" <[email protected]>
To: "'slery'" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>, "'Raul A. 
Gallegos'" <[email protected]>, "'Gw Info Discussion List'" <[email protected]>
Date: 2009/01/30 23:06:56
Subject: RE: W.E. and Netbook PC's

>
>
> See, this is where people oh so many times go wrong. Who needs that when
> you have portable connectivity and even wireless connectivity. You're
> paying over the odds, for what, a device that is second rate, runs
> slower, and is nowhere near as flexable as a mainstream device.
> Mainstream is best, it's cheaper, overall more stable, and much easier
> to repair or even replace should the need come to it. You may not have
> to send a desktop or laptop off to be fixed someone could come to your
> home to do it and it would be covered in any insurance package you would
> have when purchasing the product. Also another problem with these all in
> 1 products is that if 1 part of it goes wrong you've lost the lot. If a
> gw product goes wrong, what will you do take it to your pc store to get
> it fixed? I don't think so. And these adaptive products tend to go wrong
> far more half of them look like they've been slapped together I've been
> down that road before both with a pacmate and braillenote never again.
> Mainstream is best. Always has been always will be. And when you
> consider just how much access a person has these days with the various
> screen readers there are out there, there' really is no excuse now
> accept for a persons own flexability or there lack of. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: slery [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: 30 January 2009 21:41
> To: 'Darren Harris'; [email protected]; 'Raul A. Gallegos'; 'Gw Info
> Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: W.E. and Netbook PC's
> 
> 
> But where can you get a mainstream device with a built-in braille
> display and instant on access?
> 
> Cindy
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Darren Harris [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 3:47 PM
> > To: [email protected]; 'slery'; 'Raul A. Gallegos'; 'Gw 
> > Info Discussion List'
> > Subject: RE: W.E. and Netbook PC's
> > 
> > 
> > Yes but mainstream is always best isn't it. I mean I'd never
> > go for 1 of these note taker devices from any company. 
> > They're nothing but a waste of money when you look at what's 
> > available on todays mainstream markets.
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Nutt [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: 30 January 2009 19:53
> > To: 'slery'; 'Raul A. Gallegos'; 'Gw Info Discussion List'
> > Subject: RE: W.E. and Netbook PC's
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Cindy,
> > 
> > To my mind, the Netbook is much snappier and in fact, if you
> > put the Smalltalk in its case, with its external USB 
> > keyboard, it is heavier than a netbook.  The small thumb 
> > keyboard is so ridiculously small that it is barely usable 
> > for real typing.  For browsing yes.
> > 
> > So considering the external keyboard takes one of only two
> > USB PORTS ON THE Smalltalk, my netbook has three, then the 
> > old STU IS LOOKING LESS ATTRACTIVE BY THE MINUTE.  It also 
> > doesn't have the battery life, and in fact, the two 
> > Smalltalks I have here, have really unreliable batteries.
> > 
> > So the MSI Wind wins hands-down for me.
> > 
> > All the best
> > 
> > Steve
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: slery [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Thursday 29 January 2009 05:49
> > To: 'Raul A. Gallegos'; 'Gw Info Discussion List'
> > Subject: RE: W.E. and Netbook PC's
> > 
> > Raul,
> > 
> > Thanks so much for the info.
> > 
> > If you feel okay answering this, I would love to know the
> > comparison between the small talk ultra and the net books? 
> > Obviously, it depends on what one wants to do but my main 
> > concerns are weight and the smaller the screen the better 
> > (either for no use or depending on the situation only 10 
> > degrees of vision so smaller really is better), and typing ability.
> > 
> > I have a braille connect 12 that I would use with the small
> > talk ultra probably for typing but my braille speed does not 
> > even come close to my touch typing on a qwerty.
> > 
> > Just interested in people's thoughts on this.
> > 
> > Cindy
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Raul A. Gallegos [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:39 AM
> > > To: GW Info Discussion List
> > > Subject: Re: W.E. and Netbook PC's
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hello Andy. I will only answer this with the disclaimer
> > that GW Micro
> > > does not endorse one netbook over another. As far as Window-Eyes is
> > > concerned, you can install it and it will run fine on any of them 
> > > which use Windows operating system.
> > > 
> > > I ended up with the Asus PC1000-HA NETBOOK. This is the ten inch
> > > screen model with 1 sd card slot, 3 usb ports, 160 gb hard drive,
> > > Windows xP, 1 
> > > gb of ram, and a 6-35ll battery. The keyboard works as a 
> > > keyboard should 
> > > when you consider the fn-key, and the keys are all shaped 
> > > very nicely. 
> > > The only key so far which I don't like is the right-shift 
> > > key. this key 
> > > is a regular sized key rather than a longer rectangle key. 
> > > Next to the 
> > > right shift key on the left is the up arrow key. So if you 
> > > don't stretch 
> > > your right pinkie far enough the way you should, you end up 
> > > pressing up 
> > > arrow instead of right shift. That's one small annoyance 
> > which I can
> > > train my brain to compensate for when I consider all the other neat
> > > things I like about this machine. At this point, two of in 
> > > tech support 
> > > now have netbooks of different brands.
> > > 
> > > Hope this helps.
> > > 
> > > Andy Baracco wrote the following on 1/26/2009 11:45 PM:
> > > > So Raul,
> > > > 
> > > > Which turned out to be your favorite? Inquiring minds
> > want to know.
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Raul A. Gallegos -- GW Micro Technical Support
> > > Voice: 260-489-3671 -- Fax: 260-489-2608
> > > WEB: HTTP://WWW.GWMICRO.COM
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