It's not arrogance, it's about financial practicality. How much are you as a person or organization really spending on these products when if they did just a little more research, they could find that doing things with a more mainstream approach in mind would actually be cheaper and achieve the same thing? People want Braille displays, fine, let them have them. But you don't need the likes of the voice sense which as has already been pointed out, is like all the rest of the note taking devices, not mainstream, not able to run third party aps therefore inflexible. For the money that the likes of the adaptive tech companies charge for these devices I would expect them to come in platinum casings!!
A lot of windows based phones nowa days are accessible to code factories mobile speak pocket or smart phone. There are Braille displays out there that will connect to these devices. And these devices are getting far more powerful than my old htc that I had, mobile speak is making advances all the time, code factory are the only ones who have yet realised and got a fully working product out there that can work on these mainstream products. And at a much more affordable price than the blind friendly alternatives. As for keyboard issues, well again, there's wi-fi connectivity, USB, and Bluetooth options on these devices now. So there's absolutely no reason why such a keyboard cannot be used in given situations. I've seen them. So no it's not arrogance at all, it just saddens me to think that all these organizations, access to work, voc rehab and all the other organizations that provide people in employment with such devices as these, because of lack of research, are being effectively ripped off. It's like another difference, the difference between trekker and wayfinder access. As well as all the other things you carry about with you, why would you want to carry round an additional PDA which looks like it's been slapped together by someone who hasn't even gone through kindergarten yet, when you can have 1 single phone, with an optional external gps device should you not want to use the internal one and yes there are reasons for and against that, and the programme on the phone? Sorry but it's ludicrous! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 02 February 2009 13:35 To: Darren Harris; [email protected]; 'Robert Clark'; 'GW Micro' Subject: RE: W.E. and Netbook PC's Mr. Harris, you need to easy up on the pomposity. Mainstream may be right for you, but it may not be right for everyone. There may be instances when a specially-designed solution is preferable for someone else. It is nothing short of arogance to assume that what is right for you is right for everyone else at all times.--D.K. On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:58:04 -0000, "Darren Harris" <[email protected]> said: > Quite right. Someone with some sense!! And a dealer at that!! I'm > impressed!! Like I said, mainstream is best. It always will be. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Nutt [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 02 February 2009 06:17 > To: 'Robert Clark'; 'GW Micro' > Subject: RE: W.E. and Netbook PC's > > > Robert, > > But the big down side of these specialist devices is the price. Look > at the price of a Netbook and then compare it to a Braille Sense. Yes > you have the internal Braille device, but not the full power of > Windows, just some functions that they have chosen to add. Look at > the third party programs you could run on a Netbook as opposed to a > specialist device. > > Finally, you say you have to add the screen reader, which is right, > but even including Window-Eyes on a Netbook, it is only a third the > price of a Braille Sense if that. > > All the best > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Clark [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday 30 January 2009 23:41 > To: GW Micro > Subject: Re: W.E. and Netbook PC's > > What is mainstream about a device loaded with a screen reader? > Can a blind person buy a netbook off the shelf and use it as is? > > I've seen them and while they are definitely smaller and lighter, > when one uses braille, there are the note takers. And I am waiting ti > find out > if I can get one soon. > > Sure its wonderful to be able to adapt off the shelf products for > our use. 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