Hi Jim and Everyone,
I appreciate your comments on everything you have said. I find it
very annoying to have to keep turning browse mode on and off when
filling out a form, such as the one I posted yesterday with the sleep
study questions.
It will be wonderful when GW micro makes Window-Eyes not depend on
Browse mode. It's time for Browse mode to go bye bye. <smile>
Pat Ferguson
My honesty always gets me in trouble.
At 03:03 PM 5/3/2012, you wrote:
Ok let me understand this. They are turning off brows mode to move threw
radio buttons? If so why? Lets cover a few things. Filling out a form.
Use brows mode to move to the form. Use e to move threw feeld sets. Etc.
when you get to a control such a a check box radio button you don't need
to leave brows mode. Simply check or uncheck it with the space bar. Only
turn brows mode off if you find a control that need direct interation such
as a combo box etc. when done with this control turn brows mode on once
again. Quite simple
I am not saying that window-eyes doesn't need some work on what is done when
brows mode if turned off. It does. How-ever it can be done if you know how
to use your screen reader.
Jim Grimsby JR.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jared Smith [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 12:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: WebAIM Survey on Screen Readers
Thank you for the feedback Jim. Some very good functionality described here.
However, the real benefit of fieldsets and legends are that they can provide
the description of a grouping of form controls when those form controls are
accessed directly. When you tab to a radio button in a fieldset, the
fieldset legend should be read. Window-Eyes does not support this. All other
screen readers do.
You are correct that Window-Eyes users can navigate by fieldsets. They can
navigate by forms. And they can manually enter Browse mode and find the
fieldset legend themselves. But the fact that this vital information is not
presented in context with the grouped form controls while navigating the
form poses a distinct barrier to Window-Eyes users.
I have now received 5 e-mails and several other survey comments from
Window-Eyes users who have had less-than-optimal experiences with our fully
standards compliant survey form. Users of other screen readers have
described it as "the most accessible survey I've ever taken." I'm not trying
to pick a fight, I'm simply suggesting that Window-Eyes would provide a much
more accessibility experience for its users if it supported fieldset
accessibility while navigating a form.
Jared Smith
WebAIM.org
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