Loquendo probably won't happen since those voices are fearfully expensive.
On 12/10/2012 1:53 PM, Erik Burggraaf wrote:
I agree. It's better than putting the base price of window-eyes up and
including the voices. Since I and probably others dislike vocalizer
and abhour the idea of paying for it.
Myself, i'm more and more in favour of not paying commercial prices
for any access technology solutions, but I don't mind the a la cart
model for high-end voices. In fact, i'd like to see gw go 5 or 6 steps
further and start offering acapela, loquendo, cepstril, and anything
else they can incorporate into window-eyes in a stable manner.
Best,
Evelyn Weckerly <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi, again,
If I understand correctly, if you buy everything that comes with
Jaws and that comes with WE automatically, you'll spend somearound
$1400. In addition, their basic price is higher. Maybe it's about
time they provided something with extra charge.
Evelyn
At 03:10 PM 12/10/2012, you wrote:
That doesn't surprise me. Greedom isn't very supportive of its
vic---ahem, customers.
On 12/10/2012 1:04 PM, Evelyn Weckerly wrote:
Hi,
I heard about someone calling FS to ask for that kind of plan.
The person was told to see his rehab counsellor.
Evelyn
At 01:21 PM 12/10/2012, you wrote:
Not only that but the price GW is charging for the voices is,
in my view at least, more than reasonable. You can bet Greedom
Science Fiction wouldn't be so reasonable if they'd chosen to
charge for Vocalizer. Their SMA upgrades are far more expensive
and if you asked them for a JAWS payment
plan like what GW offers for Window-Eyes I bet you'd be lucky
if you weren't laughed off the phone.
On 12/10/2012 11:14 AM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
Hello Robert, Brice, and Mike, and anyone else who feels
shafted as long time WE users and the new voices. Let's take a
moment and talk about something different. Let's say that
Window-Eyes is a car. Yes yes, blind people don't drive, but
humor me for a bit. Pretend that Window-Eyes is a car and
pretend that the DEC voice is a feature of that car. Now
pretend that Vocalizer is another feature of the car. When you
look at in these terms you will see that you are not getting
screwed over as a so-called long time WE user.
If a person purchases a car which is a 2000 model and it comes
with certain features, it's bound to happen that by the time
the car changes enough, and advancements are made, the 2012
model will have newer and advanced features. Let's say the DEC
voice and the Vocalizer voice are two of these features. Users
who never had the 2000 model of the car will purchase the 2012
model and get Vocalizer with it. Does that mean that the users
of the 2000 model are getting screwed over because the
purchasers of the 2012 model get a newer feature? No, it means
that technology advances and changes happen. The nice thing
though, is that GW is allowing an upgrade and older WE users
can still use the new features, but it does cost money. That's
just life.
One could easily turn it all the way around and say that new
WE 8 users who have never owned WE are getting screwed because
it doesn't come with DEC and if they want it, they have to pay
for it.
If you don't like my car story, then substitute it with
something else. How about a Dell or HP computer. If I have a
computer from several years ago it might have a serial port.
Newer computers will not have a serial port because newer
technologies might make it not necessary. However if I buy a
new computer and still want to use a serial port, I will have
to pay extra money to get that feature which a new user might
otherwise not want or pay for.
So in essence, no one is forcing you to purchase these new
voices to use with WE 8. However if you want to use them with
WE 8 and you are a former than WE 8 user, you do have to pay a
license fee. Despite what the JFW lovers might say, voices are
not free.
I suppose that if you don't want to pay for the Vocalizer
voices, you could always purchase yourself a new copy of WE8
and it will come with them. That way you are spending money on
WE, not the voices directly. <smile>.
--
Raul A. Gallegos
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