And Loquendo even makes you pay to demo their voices, at least if you
want to make it say anything longer than a few words.
On 12/10/2012 4:16 PM, Erik Burggraaf wrote:
Ah, but isn't that the beauty of the corporate model? Cost is no
object. It costs what it costs and any one who wants it will pay. :)
Best,
Bryan Peterson <[email protected]> wrote:
Loquendo probably won't happen since those voices are fearfully
expensive.
On 12/10/2012 1:53 PM, Erik Burggraaf wrote:
I agree. It's better than putting the base price of window-eyes
up and including the voices. Since I and probably others dislike
vocalizer and abhour the idea of paying for it.
Myself, i'm more and more in favour of not paying commercial
prices for any access technology solutions, but I don't mind the
a la cart model for high-end voices. In fact, i'd like to see gw
go 5 or 6 steps further and start offering acapela, loquendo,
cepstril, and anything else they can incorporate into window-eyes
in a stable manner.
Best,
Evelyn Weckerly <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi, again,
If I understand correctly, if you buy everything that comes
with Jaws and that comes with WE automatically, you'll spend
somearound $1400. In addition, their basic price is higher.
Maybe it's about time they provided something with extra charge.
Evelyn
At 03:10 PM 12/10/2012, you wrote:
That doesn't surprise me. Greedom isn't very supportive of
its vic---ahem, customers.
On 12/10/2012 1:04 PM, Evelyn Weckerly wrote:
Hi,
I heard about someone calling FS to ask for that kind of
plan. The person was told to see his rehab counsellor.
Evelyn
At 01:21 PM 12/10/2012, you wrote:
Not only that but the price GW is charging for the voices
is, in my view at least, more than reasonable. You can bet
Greedom Science Fiction wouldn't be so reasonable if
they'd chosen to charge for Vocalizer. Their SMA upgrades
are far more expensive and if you asked them for a JAWS
payment
plan like what GW offers for Window-Eyes I bet you'd be
lucky if you weren't laughed off the phone.
On 12/10/2012 11:14 AM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
Hello Robert, Brice, and Mike, and anyone else who feels
shafted as long time WE users and the new voices. Let's
take a moment and talk about something different. Let's
say that Window-Eyes is a car. Yes yes, blind people
don't drive, but humor me for a bit. Pretend that
Window-Eyes is a car and pretend that the DEC voice is a
feature of that car. Now pretend that Vocalizer is
another feature of the car. When you look at in these
terms you will see that you are not getting screwed over
as a so-called long time WE user.
If a person purchases a car which is a 2000 model and it
comes with certain features, it's bound to happen that by
the time the car changes enough, and advancements are
made, the 2012 model will have newer and advanced
features. Let's say the DEC voice and the Vocalizer voice
are two of these features. Users who never had the 2000
model of the car will purchase the 2012 model and get
Vocalizer with it. Does that mean that the users of the
2000 model are getting screwed over because the
purchasers of the 2012 model get a newer feature? No, it
means that technology advances and changes happen. The
nice thing though, is that GW is allowing an upgrade and
older WE users can still use the new features, but it
does cost money. That's just life.
One could easily turn it all the way around and say that
new WE 8 users who have never owned WE are getting
screwed because it doesn't come with DEC and if they want
it, they have to pay for it.
If you don't like my car story, then substitute it with
something else. How about a Dell or HP computer. If I
have a computer from several years ago it might have a
serial port. Newer computers will not have a serial port
because newer technologies might make it not necessary.
However if I buy a new computer and still want to use a
serial port, I will have to pay extra money to get that
feature which a new user might otherwise not want or pay for.
So in essence, no one is forcing you to purchase these
new voices to use with WE 8. However if you want to use
them with WE 8 and you are a former than WE 8 user, you
do have to pay a license fee. Despite what the JFW lovers
might say, voices are not free.
I suppose that if you don't want to pay for the Vocalizer
voices, you could always purchase yourself a new copy of
WE8 and it will come with them. That way you are spending
money on WE, not the voices directly. <smile>.
--
Raul A. Gallegos
In comic strips, the person on the left always speaks
first. - George Carlin
Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com <http://raulgallegos.com/>
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
<https://twitter.com/rau47>
Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47
<http://facebook.com/rau47>
If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the
original sender only. If your reply would benefit others
on the list and your message is related to GW Micro, then
please consider sending your message to
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> so the
entire list will receive it.
GW-Info messages are archived at
http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo
<http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo>. You can manage your list
subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv
<http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv>.
If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the
original sender only. If your reply would benefit others
on the list and your message is related to GW Micro, then
please consider sending your message to
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> so the
entire list will receive it.
GW-Info messages are archived at
http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo
<http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo>. You can manage your list
subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv
<http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv>.
ERIK burggraafEbony ConsultingI am currently on the road and
staying in touch on my handheld.
ERIK burggraafEbony ConsultingI am currently on the road and staying
in touch on my handheld.
If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only.
If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is related to
GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to [email protected] so
the entire list will receive it.
GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You can manage
your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv.
