There's a bill-tracker on the General Assembly's Web site:

http://www.ncleg.net/Legislation/Legislation.html







On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 3:42 AM, Keil Wurl <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Here's a link to NC House Bill 1451 filed back in April 2009 named Bicycle
> Protection Act. I don't think this is law (yet) ???
> It has a paragraph indicating riders can not ride more than two abreast.
>
> http://www.ncleg.net/gascripts/BillLookUp/BillLookUp.pl?Session=2009%20%20&BillID=h1451
>
> As a bill passes through it various stages, where does a citizen find the
> proposed (edits) to a bill? It seems that the email thread below is
> discussing proposed edits to the original bill ?
>
>
> Sam Quattrocchi wrote:
>
>  There was an article in the N&O this morning regarding this topic, but it
> didn’t sound so onerous.
>
>
>
> Sam Quattrocchi
>
>
>
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf
> Of *mary dorsey
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 11, 2010 9:44 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [Gyros: 15339] FW: [jlows] Fwd: Proposed NC law to
> restrict/kill group rides
>
>
>
> Have any of you all heard of this piece of legislation?
>
> I haven’t but wanted to forward it on.  Perhaps someone knows more than I.
>
>
>
> mary
>
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>
>
> *Subject:* *Proposed NC law to restrict/kill group rides*
>
>   Matt's mention of the Tuesday ride prompts me to note that fans of
> that ride, as well as the P ride or just about any group ride should
> have their eye on a piece of legislation that just got proposed in the
> NC house.  You can read the text of the proposed amendment here:
>
>
> http://blogs.newsobserver.com/crosstown/legislation-would-boost-motorists-leverage-with-tow-truckers-and-with-bicyclists?storylink=misearch#ixzz0naAfLMgg
>
> This law would kill most group rides.  It makes it illegal for cyclists to:
>
> - ride more than two abreast, even temporarily (like dropping off the
> front) and even if the road is totally empty
>
> - ride more than one abreast when there is faster car traffic on the
> road.  If you're on the front, you're there for good, and if fast
> cyclists encounter slow cyclists, they *can't* pass, so that cars
> *can*
>
> - "impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic," thereby
> letting us know what the bill's authors think of bike traffic -- we're
> unnormal and unreasonable
>
> For the first time *ever* in NC vehicle law, the amendment would:
>
> - create a special sub-class of vehicle users, namely cyclists, with
> more limited rights than other classes.  The rest of the vehicle code
> treats all road users the same, with the same rights and
> responsibilities.
>
> - revoke cyclists' rights to the full lane when needed, with no
> qualifications mentioned for safety, lane conditions, whether we're
> about to take a left turn, or any of the other nuances in similar
> parts of the vehicle code.
>
> - place the responsibility to ensure that a pass is safe on the
> overtaken vehicle (the cyclist) rather than the overtaking one
>
> - penalize vehicle operators (cyclists) for their behavior as a group
> rather than individuals: cars aren't required to make sure that other
> cars follow the speed limits, but cyclists would be required to make
> sure that other riders move over, or the entire group is punished
>
> Some of the things the amendment outlines are, indeed, examples of
> good road courtesy on the part of cyclists, but there's a reason we
> don't usually try to legislate courtesy -- legislation is too
> heavy-handed a tool for this application.  What we're really seeing,
> it seems to me, is an ignorance on behalf of the bill's author (a
> retired auto dealer) to acknowledge that two- or even three-abreast
> often *is* the safest and easiest way -- for cars as well as cyclists
> -- to co-exist on the road.  Instead of trying to understand that by
> entering into the cyclists' position on the road, they're trying to
> legislate us off the road.
>
> Fuming
> -- Adam
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