I see that's the same link Keil posted. I'm thinking the new session, which just began, isn't online yet. The most recent is the 2009-2010 session.
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Craig <[email protected]> wrote: > There's a bill-tracker on the General Assembly's Web site: > > http://www.ncleg.net/Legislation/Legislation.html > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 3:42 AM, Keil Wurl <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Here's a link to NC House Bill 1451 filed back in April 2009 named >> Bicycle Protection Act. I don't think this is law (yet) ??? >> It has a paragraph indicating riders can not ride more than two abreast. >> >> http://www.ncleg.net/gascripts/BillLookUp/BillLookUp.pl?Session=2009%20%20&BillID=h1451 >> >> As a bill passes through it various stages, where does a citizen find the >> proposed (edits) to a bill? It seems that the email thread below is >> discussing proposed edits to the original bill ? >> >> >> Sam Quattrocchi wrote: >> >> There was an article in the N&O this morning regarding this topic, but >> it didn’t sound so onerous. >> >> >> >> Sam Quattrocchi >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf >> Of *mary dorsey >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 11, 2010 9:44 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* [Gyros: 15339] FW: [jlows] Fwd: Proposed NC law to >> restrict/kill group rides >> >> >> >> Have any of you all heard of this piece of legislation? >> >> I haven’t but wanted to forward it on. Perhaps someone knows more than I. >> >> >> >> mary >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> >> >> >> *Subject:* *Proposed NC law to restrict/kill group rides* >> >> Matt's mention of the Tuesday ride prompts me to note that fans of >> that ride, as well as the P ride or just about any group ride should >> have their eye on a piece of legislation that just got proposed in the >> NC house. You can read the text of the proposed amendment here: >> >> >> http://blogs.newsobserver.com/crosstown/legislation-would-boost-motorists-leverage-with-tow-truckers-and-with-bicyclists?storylink=misearch#ixzz0naAfLMgg >> >> This law would kill most group rides. It makes it illegal for cyclists >> to: >> >> - ride more than two abreast, even temporarily (like dropping off the >> front) and even if the road is totally empty >> >> - ride more than one abreast when there is faster car traffic on the >> road. If you're on the front, you're there for good, and if fast >> cyclists encounter slow cyclists, they *can't* pass, so that cars >> *can* >> >> - "impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic," thereby >> letting us know what the bill's authors think of bike traffic -- we're >> unnormal and unreasonable >> >> For the first time *ever* in NC vehicle law, the amendment would: >> >> - create a special sub-class of vehicle users, namely cyclists, with >> more limited rights than other classes. The rest of the vehicle code >> treats all road users the same, with the same rights and >> responsibilities. >> >> - revoke cyclists' rights to the full lane when needed, with no >> qualifications mentioned for safety, lane conditions, whether we're >> about to take a left turn, or any of the other nuances in similar >> parts of the vehicle code. >> >> - place the responsibility to ensure that a pass is safe on the >> overtaken vehicle (the cyclist) rather than the overtaking one >> >> - penalize vehicle operators (cyclists) for their behavior as a group >> rather than individuals: cars aren't required to make sure that other >> cars follow the speed limits, but cyclists would be required to make >> sure that other riders move over, or the entire group is punished >> >> Some of the things the amendment outlines are, indeed, examples of >> good road courtesy on the part of cyclists, but there's a reason we >> don't usually try to legislate courtesy -- legislation is too >> heavy-handed a tool for this application. What we're really seeing, >> it seems to me, is an ignorance on behalf of the bill's author (a >> retired auto dealer) to acknowledge that two- or even three-abreast >> often *is* the safest and easiest way -- for cars as well as cyclists >> -- to co-exist on the road. 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