> I disagree that having one JVM " that works the same on all OS's" as
is said below, is a good thing. Choice is better (HotSpot, JRockit, etc.).
Very well, but bear in mind that the creators of java had that
particular idea as the main reason to introduce java
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Write_once,_run_anywhere
And that proposition would have the most benefits if it could be
delivered on the client side.
Because over your server environment you have complete control.
Frankly, I would have no problem sticking with jdk 1.6 for years to come,
if I could trust that those programs run the same on all 3 operating
systems.
- Rami
Marc Chanliau wrote:
Java will always be available on the Mac, only it won't be provided by
Apple (as of Lion), which is really a good thing (so no need to move
from Mac to Linux). On the Mac, there are alternative solutions out
there as of today (SoyLatte, OpenJDK), and these solutions will become
even better over time. I disagree that having one JVM " that works the
same on all OS's" as is said below, is a good thing. Choice is better
(HotSpot, JRockit, etc.). BTW, most Java apps are on the server, not
on the client (Swing / SWT vs web apps), so you can use OpenJDK on the
Mac today without any risk. Last but not least, in the future (Lion)
the Mac will be up-to-date as far as the JVM instead of being two
years behind as was the case with JDK6 (OpenJDK7 will be available
soon, it's already available today for early adopters).
Apple is pulling out of everything that is not "Apple". The
next casualty will be Ruby (for example, the TK libraries to build
client Mac (Cocoa) apps are not bundled with the Mac (Snow Leopard)
anymore, you have to install TK yourself now (no big deal, but
disturbing trend). Apple's point is that if you want to develop Cocoa
apps you should use Objective-C (which will probably be the only
language accepted in the forthcoming Mac App Store).
Just my two cents...
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Dario Fassi <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I agree. What they are doing is spitting up.
Lately, every time the big players try to use their position of
power to drive the market, the only thing they do is strengthen
the migration to open source technologies: Linux servers &
desktops, java, php, postgresql, etc.
El 10/11/10 10:23, Rami Ojares escribió:
> It was actually good news for compatibility on windows when
MSJVM was ditched in favor of Sun's jvm.
> It's better to build one jvm that works the same on all OS's.
>
> On 10.11.2010 14:45, Wildam Martin wrote:
>> However, my personal opinion is: Apple hasn't yet the market share
>> that Microsoft does, but (already) behaves similar, so it is to
avoid.
>> I know other developers sucessfully switched from Mac to Linux. I
>> personally came from Windows world but did the same.
>>
>
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