Rami, I'm not disagreeing with you. Any JVM implementation should be per JVM spec, of course otherwise it would defeat the very purpose of Java, as you rightfully note. What I'm saying is that some JVM implementations may be more optimized for some tasks, for example, JRockit is optimized for performance.
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Rami <[email protected]> wrote: > > I disagree that having one JVM " that works the same on all OS's" as is > said below, is a good thing. Choice is better (HotSpot, JRockit, etc.). > > Very well, but bear in mind that the creators of java had that particular > idea as the main reason to introduce java > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Write_once,_run_anywhere > > And that proposition would have the most benefits if it could be delivered > on the client side. > Because over your server environment you have complete control. > > Frankly, I would have no problem sticking with jdk 1.6 for years to come, > if I could trust that those programs run the same on all 3 operating > systems. > > - Rami > > Marc Chanliau wrote: > > Java will always be available on the Mac, only it won't be provided by > Apple (as of Lion), which is really a good thing (so no need to move from > Mac to Linux). On the Mac, there are alternative solutions out there as of > today (SoyLatte, OpenJDK), and these solutions will become even better over > time. I disagree that having one JVM " that works the same on all OS's" as > is said below, is a good thing. Choice is better (HotSpot, JRockit, etc.). > BTW, most Java apps are on the server, not on the client (Swing / SWT vs web > apps), so you can use OpenJDK on the Mac today without any risk. Last but > not least, in the future (Lion) the Mac will be up-to-date as far as the JVM > instead of being two years behind as was the case with JDK6 (OpenJDK7 will > be available soon, it's already available today for early adopters). > Apple is pulling out of everything that is not "Apple". The > next casualty will be Ruby (for example, the TK libraries to build client > Mac (Cocoa) apps are not bundled with the Mac (Snow Leopard) anymore, you > have to install TK yourself now (no big deal, but disturbing trend). Apple's > point is that if you want to develop Cocoa apps you should use Objective-C > (which will probably be the only language accepted in the forthcoming Mac > App Store). > Just my two cents... > > On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Dario Fassi <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I agree. What they are doing is spitting up. >> Lately, every time the big players try to use their position of power to >> drive the market, the only thing they do is strengthen the migration to open >> source technologies: Linux servers & desktops, java, php, postgresql, etc. >> >> El 10/11/10 10:23, Rami Ojares escribió: >> > It was actually good news for compatibility on windows when MSJVM was >> ditched in favor of Sun's jvm. >> > It's better to build one jvm that works the same on all OS's. >> > >> > On 10.11.2010 14:45, Wildam Martin wrote: >> >> However, my personal opinion is: Apple hasn't yet the market share >> >> that Microsoft does, but (already) behaves similar, so it is to avoid. >> >> I know other developers sucessfully switched from Mac to Linux. I >> >> personally came from Windows world but did the same. >> >> >> > >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "H2 Database" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<h2-database%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/h2-database?hl=en. >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "H2 Database" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/h2-database?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "H2 Database" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<h2-database%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/h2-database?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "H2 Database" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/h2-database?hl=en.
