No worries mate.
But if JRockit is optimized for performance does that mean that it does
all the same things that the other jvms do but just performs better?
If so then how come everybody isn't using it?
Usually when something is optimized for performance it is taken away
from something else.
And databases have taught me that it is usually taken away from
consistency, correctness and elegance :-)
- Rami
Marc Chanliau wrote:
Rami, I'm not disagreeing with you. Any JVM implementation should be
per JVM spec, of course otherwise it would defeat the very purpose of
Java, as you rightfully note. What I'm saying is that some JVM
implementations may be more optimized for some tasks, for example,
JRockit is optimized for performance.
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Rami <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> I disagree that having one JVM " that works the same on all
OS's" as is said below, is a good thing. Choice is better
(HotSpot, JRockit, etc.).
Very well, but bear in mind that the creators of java had that
particular idea as the main reason to introduce java
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Write_once,_run_anywhere
And that proposition would have the most benefits if it could be
delivered on the client side.
Because over your server environment you have complete control.
Frankly, I would have no problem sticking with jdk 1.6 for years
to come,
if I could trust that those programs run the same on all 3
operating systems.
- Rami
Marc Chanliau wrote:
Java will always be available on the Mac, only it won't be
provided by Apple (as of Lion), which is really a good thing (so
no need to move from Mac to Linux). On the Mac, there are
alternative solutions out there as of today (SoyLatte, OpenJDK),
and these solutions will become even better over time. I disagree
that having one JVM " that works the same on all OS's" as is said
below, is a good thing. Choice is better (HotSpot, JRockit,
etc.). BTW, most Java apps are on the server, not on the client
(Swing / SWT vs web apps), so you can use OpenJDK on the Mac
today without any risk. Last but not least, in the future (Lion)
the Mac will be up-to-date as far as the JVM instead of being two
years behind as was the case with JDK6 (OpenJDK7 will be
available soon, it's already available today for early adopters).
Apple is pulling out of everything that is not "Apple". The
next casualty will be Ruby (for example, the TK libraries to
build client Mac (Cocoa) apps are not bundled with the Mac (Snow
Leopard) anymore, you have to install TK yourself now (no big
deal, but disturbing trend). Apple's point is that if you want to
develop Cocoa apps you should use Objective-C (which will
probably be the only language accepted in the forthcoming Mac App
Store).
Just my two cents...
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Dario Fassi <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I agree. What they are doing is spitting up.
Lately, every time the big players try to use their position
of power to drive the market, the only thing they do is
strengthen the migration to open source technologies: Linux
servers & desktops, java, php, postgresql, etc.
El 10/11/10 10:23, Rami Ojares escribió:
> It was actually good news for compatibility on windows when
MSJVM was ditched in favor of Sun's jvm.
> It's better to build one jvm that works the same on all OS's.
>
> On 10.11.2010 14:45, Wildam Martin wrote:
>> However, my personal opinion is: Apple hasn't yet the
market share
>> that Microsoft does, but (already) behaves similar, so it
is to avoid.
>> I know other developers sucessfully switched from Mac to
Linux. I
>> personally came from Windows world but did the same.
>>
>
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