On Sat, 11 Oct 2003, Eli Billauer wrote:

> Alon Altman wrote:
>
> >  This is a temporary measure to help promote the W2L series.
> >
> This is the classic paradigm held by Microsoft: The user has no idea
> what he or she wants, let's push our suggestions. That's why you never
> know what happens next when you run Windows.
>
> Why are we imitating?
>
> Let's think who comes to our sites: Ourselves, those looking for
> concrete info (lectures and such) and those who just heard about Haifux.
>
> The two first groups will be mildly annoyed. The third group will get
> the impression that all Haifux does is W2L.

  You're ignoring a fourth important group. This group includes people who
saw the paper ads to the W2L series and followed the link to www.haifux.org,
or heard a friend mention Haifux to them. Some of these people are not very
fluent with English and might think they have the wrong address if they see
the regular Haifux page.
  Most new visitors to Haifux come via a search engine to an internal page,
and are not affected by the redirect. I agree the we should not redirect
people who visited Haifux via a link (from a search engine or otherwise),
but just those who typed the URL in (I can add this simple fix).

> I think that a link in large font, possibly in red, near the top of the
> original page is enough to make it clear for any curious surfer that
> there is going to be a set of lectures. Don't worry, some of our
> potential visitors have the motoric ability to click a link, not to talk
> about the wisdom of choice.

  This link exists in any case. There is also a small English link at the
top of the newcomers site for people redirected by mistake.

> Alon, what do you think when you type a URL and get something else than
> you expected?

  This is exactly why we *do* have the redirect. Some people will type
"www.haifux.org" that they saw in the ads and find a different site than
expected. The detection based on country and referrer will drastically
reduce the false positives.

  Alon

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