On Sat, 11 Oct 2003, guy keren wrote:
> and if they had a very clear link, at the top of the page, written in
> hebrew, that links to the newcomers series, that's all they realy need.
> what you're doing now, is fix a bug in the ads, by breaking the web site.
> now, didn't the ads contain '/newcomers' as part of the URL?

  The ads didn't include '/newcomers' because it breaks the ad design and
people remember shorter domains of the form "www.something.tld" better than
a longer URL.

> > Most new visitors to Haifux come via a search engine to an internal page,
> > and are not affected by the redirect. I agree the we should not redirect
> > people who visited Haifux via a link (from a search engine or otherwise),
> > but just those who typed the URL in (I can add this simple fix).
>
> well, what are you waiting for? add it, until you come back to your
> senses, and disable this silly redirection. and until then, make the
> english link at the top of the site _MUCH MUCH_ larger.. for example,
> large enough so it will be noticeable - they way it is written, it seems
> like a link to some legal mambo-jambo, that is common on sites, and
> usually appears in a very very small font (not to mention making it black,
> which makes it hardly noticeable).

  I've made the English link larger. Changing the redirect requires root
access, which I currently do not have. The script that does the checks is
already ready at http://www.haifux.org/cgi-bin/ipredir.pl

> lets try to avoid breaking things that work, while trying to fix things
> that don't.

I agree.

> > This link exists in any case. There is also a small English link at the
> > top of the newcomers site for people redirected by mistake.
>
> the link on haifux's front page is written in english, and using wording
> that makes it not so clear that it is indeed a link. better write instead
> "click here to get to the new 'welcome to linux' page". and have it in
> hebrew, with words such as "lich'tzu kan kedei lir'ot et hadaf shel
> sidrat ha'hartzaot 'bruchim habaim lelinux' hachadasha". if you have the
> link in this way, you'll be able to drop the redirect, and avoid the
> confusion.

  Orna, can you do this change? I still perfer the link to be in English
though.

> and until then, at least make the english link at the top of the W2L page
> much much more visible.

Done.

  Alon

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