Oops... didn't cc the list on this. fixing...
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Michael Johnson - MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > Rather than continue discussing/arguing about this, I've attempted to take > action to solve the problem. > > I've created a googlegroup called haproxy-filtered and attempted to > subscribe it to the haproxy mailing list. All spam is set to be moderated, > otherwise it is unmoderated. > > This message will work as a test to see if I successfully subscribed it to > the mailing list. Assuming it works, if you want permission to moderate > the spam, let me know (I probably will not be doing any moderating myself). > > > On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Alexey Zilber <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 7:09 AM, Willy Tarreau <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> <snip> >>> Now please let me remind me something important : this list is provided >>> for free to make it easier for developers and users to exchange together. >>> It's managed on spare time, it's fast and free to subscribe just like >>> it's >>> fast and free to unsubscribe. Some users do indeed subscribe, participate >>> to a thread then unsubscribe. There have been about 3 times more >>> subscriptions than current subscribers, many of which coming back from >>> time to time. So for people for whom this amount of spam is a terrible >>> experience, there are a lot of options. However when you're on the >>> service >>> side of things, options to fight spam *always* come from extra burden >>> dealing >>> with false positives. So the situation is clearly far from being >>> perfect, but >>> it used to be reasonably well balanced for 7 years now. Only very >>> recently >>> we started to get subscribed to several lists and probably the address >>> has >>> better circulated to spammers resulting in an increase in the amount of >>> spam. >>> But I certainly won't spend as much time dealing with anti-spam problems >>> as >>> I already spent in this sterile thread. >>> >>> Willy >>> >>> >>> >> Willy, >> >> Please don't take our issues with the spam personally. Everyone >> appreciates the list and the help it's provided, so keep in mind people are >> just voicing their opinions (and most of us have strong opinions) regarding >> spam. >> Going over the previous threads, imho if you don't have Greylisting, >> maybe that's the way to go? While my opinion still stands that the only >> real way to combat this spam is to make it a 'subscribe to post' list; if >> you're using Greylisting, why not build it so that unsubscribed users have >> a weighted value, so users who post a lot are automatically whitelisted >> (before passing their email through spamassasin or other such spam scanner). >> >> Thanks Willy! >> -Alex >> > > > > -- > Michael Johnson - MJ > -- Michael Johnson - MJ
