I am not pissed at nVidia, I do however feel some of their marketing tactics are devious and under-handed....but that's not what we are talking about here.....we are talking mainly the technical POV.
As someone who owns: 2 x 7800GT 1 x 8800GTX 1 x GTS250 1 x 4870x2 1 x 5870 And previously owned: X800GTO, 6600GT, 9700Pro, Ti4800, Ti4400, GF2 GTS, GF256, TNT2, TNT, Voodoo3....etc .....you could say I am more pro-nVidia then AMD.....but even that would be drawing incorrect conclusions ;) And how does a 13 year old gfx card design have any bearing on what is produced today? How can you think that because nVidia have been in the game longer, "they" have the most experience? Surely, we are talking about the experience of the designers and programmers here....the guys that keep moving from one company to another and the guys who stagnate with ideas while fresher designers and programmers with much less experience produce the goods elsewhere.....and this is why Fermi seems like it's going to be a really poor chip. Bad design choices made by a supposedly experienced engineer. I am not trying to be an asshat here, just trying to educate. I see way too much hate and fanboyism on the net these days and all it does is reduce your choice for no good reason.....and at the same time you are tarring others with your claims that "nVidia are the best".....doing them no favours either. Regards Jason -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stan Zaske Sent: 01 March 2010 21:36 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [H] ATI CATALYST 10.2 & 10.3 Driver Preview - Final Thoughts and conclusions You're entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. My first Nvidia card was a Riva 128 which as you may remember was THE 1st 3D integrated video card ever sold and I stand by my opinion. As I said, when Nvidia diversified into their 1st chipsets they bled their video card driver efforts into other ventures. Clearly you're pissed at the company and I understand. Their upper management who CONTROL the software engineers are asshats for sure. They still have the best talent in the industry IMHO because they clearly have the MOST experience at it. On 3/1/2010 10:58 AM, [email protected] wrote: > That makes no sense.....you are blaming hardware designers and bean counters > for poor programming. > > nVidias driver creators were ABYSMAL for 2 solid years and I have still seen > nothing since the first properly working Vista driver that has made me go > "wow, excellent work"......so 3 years + of creating barely stable drivers and > you still want to argue they are the best driver engineers? 0_o > > I would sure like to see the evidence of your claim.....because from where I > have been sat these last few years, I have seen something completely > different! > > And that's only the purely technical POV.....all before we talk about the > under-handed tactics they have done with disabling driver features when they > detect there is an AMD card in the system also........ This message and any attachment are confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please telephone or email the sender and delete this message and any attachment from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy this message or attachment or disclose the contents to any other person. Clifford Chance LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England & Wales under number OC323571. The firm's registered office and principal place of business is at 10 Upper Bank Street, London, E14 5JJ. For further details, including a list of members and their professional qualifications, see our website at www.cliffordchance.com. The firm uses the word 'partner' to refer to a member of Clifford Chance LLP or an employee or consultant with equivalent standing and qualifications. The firm is regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority. The Authority's rules can be accessed by clicking on the following link: http://www.sra.org.uk/code-of-conduct.page Clifford Chance as a global firm regularly shares client and/or matter-related data among its different offices and support entities in strict compliance with internal control policies and statutory requirements. Incoming and outgoing email communications may be monitored by Clifford Chance, as permitted by applicable law and regulations. For further information about Clifford Chance please see our website at http://www.cliffordchance.com or refer to any Clifford Chance office.
