Hi Ilya,
See inlines below...

On Sun, 10 Oct 2004, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 10, 2004 at 09:14:32AM +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:
> > > IME language information is a feature of the XKB extension, not of GNOME
> > > or KDE. You can configure XKB with standard X11R6 tools such as
> > > 'xsetxkb' (high-level configuration loader) and 'xkbcomp' (low-level
> > > compiler). You retrieve information from the XKB extension by linking
> > > with Xlib (not GNOME or KDE libs!).
> >
> > What is the IME when I use the Pango hebrew keyboard on RH7.3 with no
> > window manager?
>
> What's a "Pango hebrew keyboard"? How do you activate it? I just want
> to make sure I know what you refer to.

http://www.pango.org/hebrew.xkb

> IIRC, Pango doesn't have any way to enter Hebrew text except by:
> 1. Loading a Hebrew keyboard mapping (via xkb or X core protocol
> facilities),
> 2. Entering Unicode characters directly (ALT-number or similar key
> combo),
> 3. Using a 3rd-party "virtual keyboard" application, like GNOME
> Onscreen Keyboard and likes.

I use http://www.pango.org/hebrew.xkb and nothing else special - works
fine.

>
> > A keyboard shortcut is essential. A toolbar icon is good, especially if
> > the tooltip also give the keyboard shortcut.
>
> We couldn't push such additions into the worldwide version. Of course,
> if we add those controls only when "CTL support" is enabled, then it's
> probably no biggie.

If Hamburg wont add these we'll add them ourselves for the benefit of the
Hebrew and Arabic versions. Maybe the icons will show up only in Arabic
and Hebrew.

>
> > Alan Yaniger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> can answer this for you.
>
> He really should join this discussion in the list.

Yes, I asked him to yesterday. He's fresher than I am in his knowledge of
Unicode and he's been working on the MS filters now for several months.

>
> > > >Remember that there are a several hundres folks out there at the Technion
> > > >who need Hebrew OpenOffice on their "stone age" X stations
> > > >
> > > And Hebrew University too :-)
> > > Hopefully those stations have the XKB extension. That's all they'd need.
> >
> > They don't.
>
> Ouch. Well, as I've said: there's a fallback plan for detecting Hebrew
> mappings, even when done via the X core protocol's keymap feature.
>

Regards,

 - yba


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