Re: [OOo-H] [Fwd: Request: Behaviour on weak characters in mixed directional environment]

[Ilya Konstantinov]

Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:
Linux box using twm window manager and a keyboard mapping that I
downloaded from Pango org and then hacked?
 

On most Linux boxes, there's IME which hints the language 
out-of-the-box, whether configured
in XF86Config (as "us,il" XkbLayout) or thru GNOME/KDE's keyboard 
switcher. Technically,
it involves subscribing to Xkb layout/mapping switching events and 
checking the current Xkb
group name for known names (Israelian, Arabic etc.).

If a user's Israeli keyboard's Hebrew group calls itself "Afrikaans", we 
wouldn't detect it,
but that classifies as a broken configuration anyway. Besides, we *can* 
detect it if we inspect the
mapping itself (ie. look for Hebrew characters among the characters 
which the mapping generates).

I have sample code for both cases (and you can find similar code in Gtk+ 
2.x and Mozilla CVS).

Do we really need to change the OOo file format for this? I don't beloeve
so.
 

Don't we already save language markup for the speller's sake? This 
information could be
represented as language markup, and the IME method above would be used 
to assist
in proper language markup (so we'll gain a benefit in the speller as well).

Not necessary. No "enhancements" to the standard needed. Just let the user
decide by pressing a shortcut key for LRO, and then PDO when returning to
RTL text flow within an RTL para.
 

You propose we replace a solution that does what the user intends in 
most cases without a single
extra key press, with a system that requires the user to be actively 
involved?
From Human Interface Guidelines perspective, that sounds like a step in 
the wrong direction?

There's no IME information on my computer. Why try to second guess the
user? There will always be some cases when we guess wrong and that's super
annoying when you intended one thing and the software "corrects" you.
 

If your keymapping is an xmodmap one, you must live in the stone age :)
I believe you could upgrade to modern keymapping in no time.
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