You say about CD keys being secure, however thats not true, I know someone personaly who has acopy of HL but yet some of the time cant play online because someone happens to have the same CD key as 'im, probably via a keygen, heck this person has even been ban'd from the BY servers using this CD key.
Steam imho is the future of software distro simply because it will drop the prices for the ppl making the software, and given time this price drop might well be passed onto the end user. CS:CZ is apprently going to be released via Steam and via CD at the same time, so ppl will still have the choice, but with ppl like NTL and BY in the UK soon to be offering 1MBit/sec CMs the issue about download speeds is slowly becominging a mute one, 8meg/min @ peak download speed is realistic (I've a 512Kbit CM atm and see the 4Meg/min download speed often from NTL). Also, this system could well open the door for indy. dev. companies, who have a product but dont want to get tied down to a contract with a large publisher. I dare say in the near future other systems such as this start to appear, because it is a good system, and with the client side stuff not being present on the clients computer (game wise) it should make things like the OGCHook less likely to appear. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip (Fiber)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 2:50 PM Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Need new content... > I think (I say that because Valve really needs to clarify all of these > things about steam) that the monthly fee is only if you want to try it > out for a bit (um, what about a demo?) and you can still pay the full > price to get full access to the game. > > Personally, steam doesn't appeal to me that much (from what I've been > told) because it means that you don't get a CD and you are reliant on > your username and password to get you access to the content and allow > you to play online (if something goes wrong/someone steals your info, > you're screwed). I prefer the CD way and the CD-Key on the back that was > secure so that if you're computer or something happened, you could just > put the CD in and in less that 5 minutes you were playing the game > online again. > > With Steam, even with broadband (and with game sizes getting larger and > larger) it would take a while to download the content (downloading as > you go can cause freezeups and other problems) and then the issue of > your SteamID or whatever the heck it is that allows you to use the > system (u/p I'll say), if something at wherever they store it goes wrong > (If it can go wrong, it will) or someone gets a hold of your u/p then > they could have access to your subscriptions and content that you paid > for. A CD-Key is a bit more secure because it is long, you can't play > online without it and as far as I know there isn't a way to generate > them (well, I haven't seen/heard of anyone using one yet). > > Steam as a way to beta test the Mods/games was/is an excellent idea as > it continually updates the software and even if you have Steam, getting > into the beta would still be quite hard (I didn't see any leaks around > the place), but moving it to become a replacement to the CD just seems > ridiculous and seems to have caused many misconceptions about it. But as > long as they still publish CD's and downloadable files and the WONID > system then I'll be fine. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jonathan Day > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 1:05 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [hlcoders] Need new content... > > > I'm just wondering if you, Valve, are planning on updating the content > all the time. I mean, if I'm going to start paying to play, I'd want > some new content to play on. New Maps each month or week or something. > If someone told me that's how it will be, then I'd sign up and start > paying right now. > > Take GTA3, for instance. I was lost when I first got the game, because > I had to learn all about the gameplay and stuff...and learn my way > around the city. Then, when I figured it out, I made it to the second > island and had to learn all over again...making it feel like a brand new > game. Then the same for the third island. But, it stopped after the > third island, and now it's just never getting that new feeling. I still > play GTA3 and TFC all day, but I'd like a new city to play around in, ya > know? If they just made it possible to frequently download and play new > cities, the game would last forever, and always keep that new feeling. > Of course, they're probably going to be doing that with the PC > version...or at least I hope they are. > > Anyway, I'm trying to say....if I'm going to pay a monthly fee to play > Half-Life and some of its mods, I'm going to want some new content each > month. Not just bug fixes and stuff like that. I mean new maps, > models, game modes, and stuff like that. TFC could use some new maps > and such. I keep mentioning maps, because that's what I think would > need to be updated more frequently. New maps make the game have that > new, complicated, confusing, new feeling. (What?) New models add a > little, but nothing compares to a new map that you have to learn and get > the hang of. I had that feeling with dustbowl, casbah, avanti, and > warpath...I think those are the most recent ones. Anyway, now I've > gotten use to those "new" maps, and want newer maps. Don't get me > wrong, I still want to play all the classing TFC maps, I just want some > new stuff. I'm just sayin...new content: it would make me pay money to > play. > > But, I'm on 56K, so I guess it doesn't really matter what I think. I'll > get broadband somtime, though. > > If you asked me what I just talked about, I wouldn't know. I'm about to > go to sleep at 8 in the morning. I just started reading my new e-mails, > and started to think outloud in this message. Sorry if you feel like I > wasted your time. > > Jonathan Day > Trepidaiton Software > www.trepidation-software.net > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
