Very interesting stuff. We 56Kers are going to be obsolete, I guess.
I remember seeing on Tech TV something about a nation-wide broadband service. They said something like....in the next 10 years, 80% of the nation will have this ntion-wide broadband service. I wish they'd hurry that up. And they were talkign about real broadband...not this less than 1 mb a second stuff. It was cool stuff to hear. But just seems so far away. I'm all for Steam if it is in fact secure, and I have broadband. ----- Original Message ----- From: "_Phantom_" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Need new content... > You say about CD keys being secure, however thats not true, I know someone > personaly who has acopy of HL but yet some of the time cant play online > because someone happens to have the same CD key as 'im, probably via a > keygen, heck this person has even been ban'd from the BY servers using this > CD key. > > Steam imho is the future of software distro simply because it will drop the > prices for the ppl making the software, and given time this price drop might > well be passed onto the end user. > CS:CZ is apprently going to be released via Steam and via CD at the same > time, so ppl will still have the choice, but with ppl like NTL and BY in the > UK soon to be offering 1MBit/sec CMs the issue about download speeds is > slowly becominging a mute one, 8meg/min @ peak download speed is realistic > (I've a 512Kbit CM atm and see the 4Meg/min download speed often from NTL). > Also, this system could well open the door for indy. dev. companies, who > have a product but dont want to get tied down to a contract with a large > publisher. > I dare say in the near future other systems such as this start to appear, > because it is a good system, and with the client side stuff not being > present on the clients computer (game wise) it should make things like the > OGCHook less likely to appear. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Philip (Fiber)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 2:50 PM > Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Need new content... > > > > I think (I say that because Valve really needs to clarify all of these > > things about steam) that the monthly fee is only if you want to try it > > out for a bit (um, what about a demo?) and you can still pay the full > > price to get full access to the game. > > > > Personally, steam doesn't appeal to me that much (from what I've been > > told) because it means that you don't get a CD and you are reliant on > > your username and password to get you access to the content and allow > > you to play online (if something goes wrong/someone steals your info, > > you're screwed). I prefer the CD way and the CD-Key on the back that was > > secure so that if you're computer or something happened, you could just > > put the CD in and in less that 5 minutes you were playing the game > > online again. > > > > With Steam, even with broadband (and with game sizes getting larger and > > larger) it would take a while to download the content (downloading as > > you go can cause freezeups and other problems) and then the issue of > > your SteamID or whatever the heck it is that allows you to use the > > system (u/p I'll say), if something at wherever they store it goes wrong > > (If it can go wrong, it will) or someone gets a hold of your u/p then > > they could have access to your subscriptions and content that you paid > > for. A CD-Key is a bit more secure because it is long, you can't play > > online without it and as far as I know there isn't a way to generate > > them (well, I haven't seen/heard of anyone using one yet). > > > > Steam as a way to beta test the Mods/games was/is an excellent idea as > > it continually updates the software and even if you have Steam, getting > > into the beta would still be quite hard (I didn't see any leaks around > > the place), but moving it to become a replacement to the CD just seems > > ridiculous and seems to have caused many misconceptions about it. But as > > long as they still publish CD's and downloadable files and the WONID > > system then I'll be fine. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jonathan Day > > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 1:05 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [hlcoders] Need new content... > > > > > > I'm just wondering if you, Valve, are planning on updating the content > > all the time. I mean, if I'm going to start paying to play, I'd want > > some new content to play on. New Maps each month or week or something. > > If someone told me that's how it will be, then I'd sign up and start > > paying right now. > > > > Take GTA3, for instance. I was lost when I first got the game, because > > I had to learn all about the gameplay and stuff...and learn my way > > around the city. Then, when I figured it out, I made it to the second > > island and had to learn all over again...making it feel like a brand new > > game. Then the same for the third island. But, it stopped after the > > third island, and now it's just never getting that new feeling. I still > > play GTA3 and TFC all day, but I'd like a new city to play around in, ya > > know? If they just made it possible to frequently download and play new > > cities, the game would last forever, and always keep that new feeling. > > Of course, they're probably going to be doing that with the PC > > version...or at least I hope they are. > > > > Anyway, I'm trying to say....if I'm going to pay a monthly fee to play > > Half-Life and some of its mods, I'm going to want some new content each > > month. Not just bug fixes and stuff like that. I mean new maps, > > models, game modes, and stuff like that. TFC could use some new maps > > and such. I keep mentioning maps, because that's what I think would > > need to be updated more frequently. New maps make the game have that > > new, complicated, confusing, new feeling. (What?) New models add a > > little, but nothing compares to a new map that you have to learn and get > > the hang of. I had that feeling with dustbowl, casbah, avanti, and > > warpath...I think those are the most recent ones. Anyway, now I've > > gotten use to those "new" maps, and want newer maps. Don't get me > > wrong, I still want to play all the classing TFC maps, I just want some > > new stuff. I'm just sayin...new content: it would make me pay money to > > play. > > > > But, I'm on 56K, so I guess it doesn't really matter what I think. I'll > > get broadband somtime, though. > > > > If you asked me what I just talked about, I wouldn't know. I'm about to > > go to sleep at 8 in the morning. I just started reading my new e-mails, > > and started to think outloud in this message. Sorry if you feel like I > > wasted your time. > > > > Jonathan Day > > Trepidaiton Software > > www.trepidation-software.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
