It's not that they have given up, it's that they no longer support HL/CS.

On Tuesday 25 September 2001 09:46 am, you wrote:
> If they are giving up, they could at least make the source code public
> in a way it could be further developed by the community that made them
> succesfull. I even offered my help in coding the linux pbc2jpg util.
> I am seriouly thinking about dumping pb.
>
> Buddha-Pest wrote:
> > we've heard PB's side?  oh, you mean the sudden rant on their news page?
> > i'm sorry, but i am still waiting for the explanation from the PB side...
> >
> > Either:
> > 1. Tony went to Valve to ask them to finance PB (either by outright
> > buying them, or by funding them).  Valve said no or didn't respond or did
> > not respond IN TIME.  Tony threw a fit.
> > 2. Tony keeps asking for support from Valve (btw, this isn't "answering
> > questions" probably more like having a gander at the source or asking for
> > new APIs in the SDK).  Valve said no or didn't respond or didn't respond
> > IN TIME.  Tony threw a fit.
> > 3. Both
> >
> > my guess: it's mostly 1 and a wee bit of 2.
> >
> > don't get me wrong here guys, i want to see PB + HL work.  i have
> > supported PB from the get go.  i appreciate what these VOLUNTEERS have
> > done.  i respect them.  I AM WILLING TO PAY THEM FOR A SERVER PRODUCT.
> > but i do not support the way they handle basically every fucking issue.
> > which is with anger and stubbornness.
> >
> > consider how unresponsive PB has been to admins over the last year (Clan
> > Tag Registry is a great example), how for months they refused to allow
> > the product to go in an unexpected direction (even a month ago PB support
> > was still referring to PB as a product for leagues), how totally
> > unsupportive they were with 3rd party apps (until about 2 months ago, but
> > i won't forget the previous months because not only were they
> > unsupportive, they kept flinging that software agreement around at anyone
> > trying to customize PB some).  do i want them to get their just deserts?
> > no!  but i'm just pointing out that these guys are not martyrs of any
> > sort.  they're a decent bunch of developers with a great idea and now
> > they want to drop the ball on the very community that made them
> > successful...  and they're going to jealously guard this technology too,
> > mark my words.  i have trouble supporting that.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Eric Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 3:24 PM
> > Subject: RE: PB no more.....
> >
> > > > why is Valve the one that *HAS* to respond?
> > >
> > > Because we've heard PB's side.  We deserve to know what's going on...
> > >
> > > Eric (the Deacon remix)
> > > http://www.firekite.com

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What, were you expecting something witty?


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