hehe.   so PB team got sick of doing updates?  can't be assed to carry on
developing there definition files and everyone heres this and copies my
example of having a rant at valve..  "blah blah valve you really suck.. blah
blah"

i have surely seen the error of my ways.   ffs valve have had this game
going since 95..  theyve continued to provide updates and keep the game
going, i think its hardly valves fault if the punkbuster team decide to pack
it in..

(grumble, damn cd keys..)

rar..

you guys take things too seriously, sit back relax.. be  a troll, this whole
thing will sort it self out, im sure there will be a new punkbuster update
out b4 u know it :-D

"must be positive.."
----- Original Message -----
From: "Buddha-Pest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: PB no more.....


>
> jesus christ to YOU eric.  have you have so little to contribute lately
that
> you feel you have to rip apart every post on this list in order to stay
> active?
>
> you know what i spent tonight doing while you carefully crafted your
nightly
> quota of a half dozen caustic emails?  i sat around with a bunch of
> developers talking about strategies for client side verification.  one of
> these guys works at DirectTV and they have developed some extremely clever
> technologies to fight satellite feed piracy that are very applicable to
what
> an anti-cheat program has to do.  like constantly uploading code segments
> that by themselves don't do much but at some point in the future need to
get
> executed for a handshake to work.  like putting in controlled buffer
> overflows that actually execute code that verifies the legitimacy of the
> client.  not foolproof but as another poster said earlier, there is no way
> to prevent getting around the system, but the point is to make it as hard
as
> possible.  i'm willing to put in time to come up with an alternative.
your
> contribute to beatdown ratio on this list is pathetic on the other hand.
>
> and yes, to ME it was a rant.  you call dropping support for HL so
suddenly
> that even other PB team members didn't know about it until after the fact
a
> measured decision?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 11:28 PM
> Subject: RE: PB no more.....
>
>
> >
> > > we've heard PB's side?  oh, you mean the sudden rant on their news
page?
> > > i'm sorry, but i am still waiting for the explanation from the PB
> side...
> >
> > Jesus Christ, you call that a rant?!  You might want to go back and read
> it
> > again...  There was no ranting involved.
> >
> > > Either:
> > > 1. Tony went to Valve to ask them to finance PB (either by outright
> buying
> > > them, or by funding them).  Valve said no or didn't respond or did not
> > > respond IN TIME.  Tony threw a fit.
> > > 2. Tony keeps asking for support from Valve (btw, this isn't
"answering
> > > questions" probably more like having a gander at the source or asking
> for
> > > new APIs in the SDK).  Valve said no or didn't respond or didn't
respond
> IN
> > > TIME.  Tony threw a fit.
> > > 3. Both
> >
> > I'm not sure where you're getting this "threw a fit" nonsense.  In every
> > communication from Tony, direct or public, I've found him to be nothing
> but
> > reasonable, if a little head-strong.  It's this childish, rather
pointedly
> > poisonous rhetoric like you've got there that really chaps my hide,
> regardless
> > of how I feel about the situation.  Throwing in this "Tony threw a fit"
> stuff
> > and the "rant" news post at http://www.punkbuster.com/news.html is
> completely
> > off-base, unnecessary, and I'd venture to say out-right false.  If
you're
> going
> > to discuss an issue rationally, at least be fair about it...
> >
> > Eric (the Deacon remix)
> > http://www.firekite.com
> >
> >
>
>


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