Nearly possitive it's for source products only. But one can still hold out hope.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [hlds] Suggestion for VAC2. This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Yup, I can't wait until that's announced. Alexander Kobbevik wrote: >Has Valve said anything about what VAC2 will be for? >HalfLife2 engine only? Or others like HalfLife1/Counter-Strike? > >-Alex > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roc >Sent: 31. mars 2005 11:04 >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [hlds] Suggestion for VAC2. > > > > >Alexander Kobbevik wrote: > > > >>>Why do you think it is fair to warn of a possible anti-cheat that will >>> >>> >>> >>> >>work? >> >>We are talking about a serious company here. And I only said it's fair >>to announce the start of a new system. They want as much players as >>possible, this is the way to go. >> >> >> >> > >If I am correct the have the largest MP following! >And as for fair, they were fair to give the warning as we all saw last week >when we launced STEAM. ;) > > > >> >> >>>So that the possible cheating Admin can say gee, valve I'm not a >>>cheater, >>> >>> >>> >>> >>I was just testing the hack to see how it works! >> >>Hum? I suggested a delay in the execution of the bans, not a second >>chance for the cheater. Everyone will be banned for cheating, but a >>delay will catch more ignorant cheaters and create a fear of the >>unknown. Like this: A cheat developer swims out on open sea... no >>sharks... tells his "children" that its safe... >>They all jump in and start swimming.. only to find out the shark has been >>observing.. and will now eat them all.. >>Instead of just eating the cheat tester because people noticed he got >> >> >eaten. > > >> >> > >Don't you think for a minute that is exactly what has been done all these >months whilst we sat here bitching about "when is a vac update coming out" >I for one hope they already have a database on potentials! > > > >> >> >>>Warning gives them the opportunity to protect themselves and why would >>>you >>> >>> >>> >>> >>want to protect a cheater? >> >>I don't want to warn a cheater, but again; Valve is a serious company. >>You can't do whatever you feel like when trying to be serious. >> >> >> >> > >See, this is why I believe your method is not the best! > >A warning does nothing but let the cheaters know their hack is broken. The >game is not that expensive so they'll have a few spare keys to use testing >the new hack. Then the new hack is released and what happens now is that all >the cheaters who were warned will have saved the entire cheat world by >telling of their warnings > >Everyone then downloads new hack and cheating resumes without being caught >and resulting in no bans till VAC figures they're cheating once again and >tries to figure out how to stop the said hack! > >That being said cheat authors branch out like trees and start creating more >cheats and that is worse because now we end up in a loop like the old VAC >days waiting around to play catchup > >Playing possum and watching them as you cheat as you suggest will serve no >purpose as long as VAC2 can guarantee that when it catches someone they are >in fact really cheating > > > >> >> >>>VAC will always be updated whenever a new cheat is released so long >>>the >>> >>> >>> >>> >>project doesn't fall apart. >> >>Does this mean that we know VAC will be updated on the fly? >>If so, great. No need for a delay. >> >> >> >> >> >It can only be updated as long as it keeps up with the cheats and we >continue to help by informing them of new cheats and cheat sites when they >pop up. > > > >>>But he will know it when all the little cheaters run to his forums >>>and/or >>> >>> >>> >>> >>email him! Then he removes cheat and valve cant ban him because they >>waited and gave him a chance. >> >>Again: noone is asking cheaters to be given a chance to get away. >>(Except that Fred - Prism128 ;)) >> >>-Alex >> >> >> >> > >True h4x0r material :) > >Regards > > > >>_______________________________________________ >>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >_______________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please >visit: >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > -- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
