Clayton is correct, yes I made a mistake previously, but as he said in
his e-mail, there is no debate.

On 7/18/05, Hemminger Corey SrA 735 CES/CEUD
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's not 1000MB or 1,000,000KB ect... Computers only work with powers of
> 2 so you get, 1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128 ect.., it takes 8 bits to make a
> byte. Thus 4 is 2 to the power of 2 in binary 4 would be 00100000.

A computer might store it like that (it transmitted it like that). But
4 in 8-bit binary un-encoded should surely by 00000100. Anyone for now
teaching endianess? Why not move onto a swift lesson on 2's complement
and IEE754 floats.

> One
> Byte is all 8 binary digits grouped together. So 1MB is actually 1048KB
> which is 1,048,576 Bytes 2 to the power of 20. then you take that and
> multiply that by 8 = 8,388,608 bits, which is all the ones and zeros
> your modem has to transmit. KB and MB are just units of deviation like
> millimeter, centimeter, meter, kilometer. For simplicity they just round
> things down, especially because like Macleod said you get a little over
> head in the data.
>
> For the internet you can't have an IP digit greater than 255 because in
> an 8 bit octet it's 11111111. thus an IP of 192.168.0.1 is
> 00000011.00010101.00000000.100000000 each place in the binary represents
> the 1,2,4,8,32,64,124 so the first octet that's 192 says there is only
> 1-124 and 1-64 added together gives 192. So now you have had a brief
> explanation on Binary and you understand a little bit of how those 1's
> and 0's work in computers.

Thank you so much.

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sprout
> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 7:39 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: sv_unlag and Ping
>
> MB=mega byte Mb means mega bit ... thats where the confusion is its all
> in the abreviation but clayton has it right as well as james just
> diffeernt views but for the reasoning of the server I think its figured
> in bits so clayton is altimatly right
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Dalberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 12:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: sv_unlag and Ping
>
>
> > I'll second what Clayton says...  1000000b/s is 1Mbps
> >
> > Clayton Macleod wrote:
> >
> >>sorry, but you're wrong. 1Mbps in terms of *network communication* is
> >>always 1,000,000 bits, just like 1Kbps is always 1,000 bits.
> >>
> >>On 7/16/05, James Tucker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Sorry, but I just want to verify, you do know those byte values are
> >>>wrong don't you?
> >>>
> >>>1MB is 1024 KB which is 1048576 Bytes, which is 8388608 bits.
> >>>
> >>>Gb->Mb->Kb always factors of 1024 different.
> >>>There are 8 bits in a byte.
> >>>
> >>>1Mbps (bits per second, the standard measurement for most
> >>>telcommunications speeds)
> >>>
> >>>1Mbps is capable of sending 1024kbps, which is 1048576 bits per
> second.
> >>>128k is actually 131072 bits per second 16k is 16384 bits per second.
> >>>
> >>>Rounded values are however good as they leave some space for
> >>>oversubscription / link control / protocol overhead.
> >>>
> >>>Yeah, I couldn't recommend running a server on 16kbps up.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>Clayton Macleod
> >>
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