Hahahahahahhaha So is there a South Africa equivalent to Goodwin's Law? If so we just hit it.
hahah server Apartheid that's awesome. > Its like server Apartheid. Why is it so hard to put everyone in one list > and let the player decide? This is ridiculous. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 7:40 PM > Subject: RE: [hlds] TF2 update coming later today > > >> Everything needs to be moved to one tab with it defaulting to showing >> everything. >> >> Then let the player decide to filter out servers all on his own. >> >> This works both ways, the player that actively looks for a vanilla >> server, >> will find one easy. >> The player that just wants to find any server to play on, will find one >> easy. >> >> I doubt valve is even reading any of these messages, but if they are and >> they intend to put servers to a custom tab hardly anyone will see for >> any >> little change, expect a huge backlash because of it and expect that >> you'll >> have to spend more time solving the problem while making server >> administrators angry, or worse, taking down their servers and moving to >> other games. >> >> And about the delisting... >> >> If I programmatically strip the "increased_maxplayers" tag from my 24 >> player >> server and get delisted because of it, I won't be too happy. >> >> I was excited about the tags when they were first announced, it's too >> bad >> they have turned it into something quite lame with the 'secondary' list. >> >> And what about the primary list outside of the game? Do these show all >> servers or just servers that are "vanilla"? >> >> - voogru. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Paloma >> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 7:20 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: [hlds] TF2 update coming later today >> >> I agree with this. There is already a filtering mechanism on the >> Internet >> tab. Why not just keep one tab and add the tags thing to the existing >> filters? This is how I imagined the tags would be implemented when it >> was >> first introduced and still makes the most sense to me. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Armstrong >> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 3:23 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: [hlds] TF2 update coming later today >> >> Yeah. >> >> I think the server tags thing can be made much nicer if the 'server >> tags' >> box was simply moved to the Internet tab, just allowing it as an extra >> filter. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Hartland >> Sent: Friday, 7 March 2008 9:55 AM >> To: [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 update coming later today >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Eric Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>> We'll be doing some work to educate players on the new Custom servers >>> tab, using both PR and user interface changes. Now that the >>> Internet/Custom servers system is in place, we'd like server admin to >>> work within it. We'll be delisting servers with custom rule sets that >>> deliberately work around the system. >> >> Unfortunately we can tell you from many years of experience it doesn't >> matter how much PR or education you put behind something like this, >> it simply wont work as gamers are:- >> 1. Lazy >> 2. Creatures of habit >> 3. Quite stupid >> >> As I previously mentioned this is from bitter experience with Epic's >> failed attempt at a similar feature which was very much simpler, a >> tick box for "Standard servers only" that was selected by default. >> >> We look forward to the changes you propose to the UI and hope this >> takes into account the information we have all provided since its >> release. >> >> In short creating a single search interface which allows users to >> quickly and easily filter servers from a default show all list is >> the only option. Splitting XYZ servers over here and the rest over >> there is simply too confusing / complicated for your average joe. >> >> As an annalogy, you dont see Google only listing XHTML compliant web >> pages in their main search and forcing users to go another page to >> search all none conforming sites. Yes XHTML compliant sites will >> likely provide a better more consitent user experience, but when it >> all comes down to it 99% of users simply dont care. They want to >> sample whats out there, if they try something and it doesnt work >> for them they will go somewhere else. >> >> Regards >> Steve >> >> >> ================================================ >> This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and >> the >> person or entity to whom it is addressed. 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