Well... actually, i am thinking about virtualization because the cheapest dedicated server costs me $700 (Argentinian Pesos) And a Virtual Server costs only $360.
Considering i earn $900 monthly, its impossible for me paying the dedicated server and also living :P I cant pay $700 because hosting gameservers is not a work for me, its just a hobbie... Also, i cant host in my own house because here in Argentina decent internet connections are only in Buenos Aires center, and i am far from there... Thanks William Stillwell - KI4SWY escribió: > I maintain 8 16 core VMWare ESX Servers with IBM San Volume Controllers. > Vmware ESX is ALSO based on Linux, the statement that "XEN" gets you closer > to the hardware is no different the VMware ESX.. > Honestly? I would not Virtualize a Server just to run multiple copies of > SrcDS.. you can run them all on one O/S Installation.. > You can have them listen on different IP Addresses, there is no point in > splitting each instance up on a seperate "Virtual" machine., becuase then > your adding the overhead of each vm's o/s, and the overhead of the host o/s.. > and Vmware ESX isn't the cheapest thing either. > Avoid GSX.. its for those CFO's who don't want to spend money. > Workstation is AWESOME for testing stuff out on your local machine.. (you > only limited to your workstation hardware). > I would suggest you build a Quad Core Extreme box, 4 gigs of Ram, a small 5 > disk SAS Array with an PCI-e Adapter 3805 Sas Controller, Install one copy of > CentOS or whateever flavor of Linux. Set on Nic up for Managmenet (SSH > connection), and use a second nic to host the games on, (no ssh).. > You should also setup a web server for the content downloads (custom maps, > etc). > I Strongly suggest not wasting time on any virtulazation platform unless your > 1) Employer or Someone you know already has a ton of Virtualization > Enviroments, and is Offering you a space on there servers. > 2) You plan on hosting a ton of servers, and have different people have > access to them (which still can be done using 1 machine, no virtual > enviroment) > Virtualization is Great for any "M$ hosted enviroment" that require mission > critical uptime.. if a server fails, you have ZERO headaches when it comes to > getting them back on line, you ever do a Bare Metal Restore of a Windows > Server? I will see you tommorrow, haha.. With Virtualization, it takes less > then 30 minutes to completly build an ESX Server from Scratch.. (Provided you > had the hardware).. if already had the hardware, it probably already had a > copy of ESX on it, then it takes a mater of seconds to boot your VM Image on > the other server, its just a point and click, and online you go.. > -----Original Message----- > From: "Never" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent 10/9/2008 1:09:33 PM > To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [hlds] HLDS ConsumptionThink that virtualization is one of the > most quick growing technology. > Also, my provider does not use VMWare... They use XEN, it has a > significant difference in performance because it uses a modified linux > kernel to work, and it get virtual machines closer to the hardware than > any other virtualization system... > I will give it a try... They are offering me a free month to test it, > and i will choose the most expensive plan, with high CPU priority (Its a > powerfull Xeon Quad Core), 2GB ram, 300 GB Monthly transference, 4 Mbit > national and 4 Mbit international bandwidth, and 150 GB hard disk that > i wont use. > If it works i will find some way to pay it... Maybe selling the free > disk space to somewone who wants to resell webhosting... > I will try to host 4 or 5 gameservers there, if it works fine you will > be the first i'll tell :). > Anyway, its free for 1 month :D > Thanks > Germán > Midnight escribió: > >> From the Datacenter's perspective, they generally oversell the hardware >> that runs the Virtual (VPS) servers, meaning they do not anticipate each >> of those VPS instances to use gobs of CPU as they would if running any >> game servers. I have seen several Datacenters that state plainly in >> their terms of service that if your VPS is using more than its fair >> share of CPU power they will ask you to upgrade to a dedicated box. >> Your provider may differ on this but that's a general rule of thumb that >> I have seen. You might want to tell them what you will be running on it >> and see what they say before going with it and finding out later they >> are pulling the plug on your servers. >> >> While it is possible to run servers on a Vitual machine setup, you will >> use more CPU and get less performance out of a VPS. If you think of a >> VPS as like 1/2 to 1/3 the power of a low end Celeron dedicated box, >> that's probably the amount of load you would want to run on it at >> maximum, otherwise you might as well be on a dedicated server. Granted >> these VPS's can span multiple high end CPUs but they are not really >> intended to utilize them all on a consistent basis. >> >> I can't talk to Linux VPS's but I once ran 2 VMWare server instances on >> Windows. (When UT3 came out it would only install on XP so that is what >> we had to use at the time). Each instance of VMWare had one UT3 server >> installed with the number of player slots not too large (10-16) and used >> about 35% of a Core2 Duo 6600, so you could only really run 2 of them on >> that dedicated box. Without VMWare you could run about 10 game servers >> on that hardware no problem. (Less if you are talking high FPS servers >> such as 500-1000FPS CSS servers.) I really would not recommend that on >> a Virtual server, high end dedicated boxes have a hard enough time >> keeping up with those rates. If you want to run lower speed 33 tick >> 100FPS settings then you might be able to get away with it, but it is >> not really the recommended way to go. >> >> I will look forward to see what Saint K has to say, feel free to >> surprise us. >> >> >> >> Saint K. wrote: >> >> >>> I can shed some light on that after the weekend. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve >>> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 12:13 AM >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] HLDS Consumption >>> >>> There was a discussion about this not too long ago. the general consensus >>> was that virtual servers were not a good choice to run game servers on. >>> >>> I know Saint K was going to do some testing in a VS and post some numbers >>> but we haven't heard back from him yet. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> They offered me a virtual server... Will it work? >>>> They said me that i can test the server 30 days free... >>>> But i think it will not work... ¿What do you think? >>>> >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Did you get hit by their huge fire before? >>>>> >>>>> @never: that does sound sucky. I have quite a few SA friends so I've >>>>> heard how tough it is in places. Wishing u luck. >>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Robert Whelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> >>>>> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 12:54:41 >>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing >>>>> list<[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] HLDS Consumption >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> dunno what your idea of expensive is though I hate paying the middle m >>>>> > an > >>>>> (gamehosting services). I rent directly and run what I want, when I >>>>> want... >>>>> >>>>> Do some shopping... http://www.theplanet.com/ >>>>> >>>>> I've been using them for years.. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>>> From: Never <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2008 1:21:44 PM >>>>> Subject: [hlds] HLDS Consumption >>>>> >>>>> I know this is a typical question. >>>>> I am planning to leave my gamehosting provider and get a dedicated >>>>> server. 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