This coming from the person that states that the mailing list is for support and not spam then a hour later spams the list with jokes about irc clients.
everyone seems to have a opinion for everyone else, but it never applies to them self. Now this was stupid personal attacks and is spam. msleeper wrote: > If people kept their opinions to themselves about what should or should > not be SPAMMED here, then all we would have to read is the same 3 or 4 > people complaining about the same single error that everyone has known > about for weeks. I seriously think some of you have problems with short > term memory with how often you type the exact same emails about the > exact same problem. > > Valve has said they are aware of the problem, they are going to fix it, > and they do not have a time table. What more do you want? Rather, what > more insight have they ever provided or given when there was a known > issue? It's not their place to keep us up-to-date with their daily > tasks. Personally I would rather them work on fixing the problem, then > spending an hour or two a day answering every single bitch and moan that > gets pasted here. But maybe that's just me. > > > > On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 17:28 -0500, SakeFox wrote: > >> "To help them help each other we have set up some mailing lists that >> provide a forum for server administrators and MOD programmers to discuss >> issues that pertain to running a /Half-Life/ dedicated server or >> creating a /Half-Life/ MOD." >> >> This time out bug is a issue with the DS and in so is a valid topic to >> be talking about. >> >> on another note, if you don't like a topic that is being discussed >> please don't post on it. You complaining on makes it worse and you are >> causing your own issues. If people would just keep there own opinions to >> them selfs on what should and should not be allowed on here issues like >> this wouldn't be a problem. >> >> Evan Kaufman wrote: >> >>> You are missing the forest for the trees, Karl. Valve is not >>> responding to your constant bitching here, yet several of us are by >>> telling you that this is not the place for it. >>> >>> Valve doesn't use this list on a regular basis, but we do. You are in >>> effect NOT bitching at Valve, but bitching instead at us. >>> >>> We do not have the power to fix this bug. Valve does. Bitch to them. >>> Go to valvesoftware.com, click "Contact", and go from there. >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Karl Weckstrom <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Please post the Mailing List FAQ that states all this. Until then, I think >>>> you're going to have to live with it. >>>> >>>> At this point, the sheer number of people experiencing it (everybody) is >>>> cause for alarm. Thus far I have found no workarounds, but it's certainly >>>> not from a lack of trying. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Evan Kaufman >>>> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 1:02 PM >>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Time out at map change >>>> >>>> <unlurk> >>>> Agreed, it is a serious bug, and they are clearly aware of it and of >>>> how upset people are about it. The point remains that THIS IS NOT THE >>>> PLACE FOR COMPLAINTS. This is the place to: >>>> >>>> 1) Gather or inquire technical details of said bug >>>> 2) Share and discuss any work-arounds for said bug >>>> >>>> Airing of grievances belongs on forums and blogs and Valve's customer >>>> support channels, not on a mailing list for independent server >>>> operators. >>>> <lurk> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Karl Weckstrom <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I second Patrick. It *IS* annoying. >>>>> >>>>> If you're a server admin that cares about the experience of the player, >>>>> then how can you not find this annoying? How can you not be frustrated? >>>>> >>>>> I'm at wits end with this bug. I still fail to see how Valve could have >>>>> let such an egregious error slip by them. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe you don't run any TF2, DOD:S or L4D servers? >>>>> Maybe you do and you don't really care about your players? >>>>> >>>>> To be honest, I don't care what your reasoning is. This is a serious >>>>> problem that's getting lots of airtime here. And until the server >>>>> operators get some satisfaction from Valve, expect it to continue. >>>>> >>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
