Wait, what? I think you have me confused with someone else - I have said that the mailing list is NOT a Valve support line, it is for server admins to help eachother.
I'd really suggest taking a break from whatever it is you're doing if a little joke about TCP/IP fun gets you in a twist. You should probably take it easy. On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 17:50 -0500, SakeFox wrote: > This coming from the person that states that the mailing list is for > support and not spam then a hour later spams the list with jokes about > irc clients. > > everyone seems to have a opinion for everyone else, but it never applies > to them self. > > Now this was stupid personal attacks and is spam. > > msleeper wrote: > > If people kept their opinions to themselves about what should or should > > not be SPAMMED here, then all we would have to read is the same 3 or 4 > > people complaining about the same single error that everyone has known > > about for weeks. I seriously think some of you have problems with short > > term memory with how often you type the exact same emails about the > > exact same problem. > > > > Valve has said they are aware of the problem, they are going to fix it, > > and they do not have a time table. What more do you want? Rather, what > > more insight have they ever provided or given when there was a known > > issue? It's not their place to keep us up-to-date with their daily > > tasks. Personally I would rather them work on fixing the problem, then > > spending an hour or two a day answering every single bitch and moan that > > gets pasted here. But maybe that's just me. > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 17:28 -0500, SakeFox wrote: > > > >> "To help them help each other we have set up some mailing lists that > >> provide a forum for server administrators and MOD programmers to discuss > >> issues that pertain to running a /Half-Life/ dedicated server or > >> creating a /Half-Life/ MOD." > >> > >> This time out bug is a issue with the DS and in so is a valid topic to > >> be talking about. > >> > >> on another note, if you don't like a topic that is being discussed > >> please don't post on it. You complaining on makes it worse and you are > >> causing your own issues. If people would just keep there own opinions to > >> them selfs on what should and should not be allowed on here issues like > >> this wouldn't be a problem. > >> > >> Evan Kaufman wrote: > >> > >>> You are missing the forest for the trees, Karl. Valve is not > >>> responding to your constant bitching here, yet several of us are by > >>> telling you that this is not the place for it. > >>> > >>> Valve doesn't use this list on a regular basis, but we do. You are in > >>> effect NOT bitching at Valve, but bitching instead at us. > >>> > >>> We do not have the power to fix this bug. Valve does. Bitch to them. > >>> Go to valvesoftware.com, click "Contact", and go from there. > >>> > >>> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Karl Weckstrom <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> Please post the Mailing List FAQ that states all this. Until then, I > >>>> think you're going to have to live with it. > >>>> > >>>> At this point, the sheer number of people experiencing it (everybody) is > >>>> cause for alarm. Thus far I have found no workarounds, but it's > >>>> certainly not from a lack of trying. > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: [email protected] > >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Evan Kaufman > >>>> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 1:02 PM > >>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Time out at map change > >>>> > >>>> <unlurk> > >>>> Agreed, it is a serious bug, and they are clearly aware of it and of > >>>> how upset people are about it. The point remains that THIS IS NOT THE > >>>> PLACE FOR COMPLAINTS. This is the place to: > >>>> > >>>> 1) Gather or inquire technical details of said bug > >>>> 2) Share and discuss any work-arounds for said bug > >>>> > >>>> Airing of grievances belongs on forums and blogs and Valve's customer > >>>> support channels, not on a mailing list for independent server > >>>> operators. > >>>> <lurk> > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Karl Weckstrom <[email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> I second Patrick. It *IS* annoying. > >>>>> > >>>>> If you're a server admin that cares about the experience of the player, > >>>>> then how can you not find this annoying? How can you not be frustrated? > >>>>> > >>>>> I'm at wits end with this bug. I still fail to see how Valve could have > >>>>> let such an egregious error slip by them. > >>>>> > >>>>> Maybe you don't run any TF2, DOD:S or L4D servers? > >>>>> Maybe you do and you don't really care about your players? > >>>>> > >>>>> To be honest, I don't care what your reasoning is. This is a serious > >>>>> problem that's getting lots of airtime here. And until the server > >>>>> operators get some satisfaction from Valve, expect it to continue. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
