What if we as server ops changed sv_minrate to 60000, wouldnt that fix it.
Of course the people who dont have good connection wont do well with it but
I dont know how many people that would affect.

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Nephyrin Zey <[email protected]> wrote:

> <this post is about rate settings, not any bugs relating to rate or lag
> that are going around, please keep those to their own threads>
>
> So last night in my TF2 server, one of my regulars was complaining about
> 'the lag', and i asked him to open his console and type rate. '3500' he
> reads to me. Well, no wonder.
>
> This is not the only time i've helped someone up their rate from 3500. I
> also have a scrolling message in my 32x servers advising that you up
> your rate from the normal max of 30000 to even higher. Right now, both
> server and client rate settings have horrible defaults, and it is
> causing lag for everyone.
>
> - rate seems to like to default to 3500 for some people, for some
> reason. I've experienced this myself, no idea what causes it.
> - 32x servers use way more than 30000 rate in heavy action, net_graph 4
> + spectate makes this very clear
> - Servers have net_splitpacket_maxrate set to 15000 by default, and
> there's little documentation on this. This causes 'skips' when you first
> happen upon a lot of action, as Tony documented.
> - Since the l4d-networking-merge patch, either TF2 is using way more
> bandwidth, or the way it's calculating rate is more aggressive. 30000
> used to be enough for 32x (though it wasn't perfectly smooth), but now
> its just plain laggy.
>
> So please, everyone make sure your rate/maxrate settings are proper, and
> valve, please take a look at client rate defaults. I'm sure 90% of my
> players are using rate 30000, and this is just a much laggier experience
> than what you could be getting. The other 10% probably have either 10000
> (and probably have long since learned never to join 32x servers due to
> lag) or 3500. Neither of these is even for even a good 24x server, so
> that sucks.
>
> - Neph
>
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