Indeed. Unplug drive, plug in drive. Drive rebuilds from exisiting parity/mirror. All of 10 seconds if your slow...;)
Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network -----Original Message----- From: msleeper <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:08:47 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list<[email protected]> Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose Right because restoring from RAID is a walk in the park. On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 18:00 -0500, Cc2iscooL wrote: > But that's too much work for us lazy server admins. > > On 4/29/09, msleeper <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yeah I have to agree, this whole RAID thing is a bit overkill. Your hard > > drive dies? Pay your host the $20 to replace your drive and re-install. > > It's a game server, it will take like 30 minutes. > > > > On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 06:51 -0700, Robert Whelan wrote: > >> Its a game server...lol 10K SAS 146GB would do you fine. Otherwise a WD > >> Black > >> > >> I have 13 servers easily running off ours (Dual Xeon 5335 Quad Core > >> Clovertown Processors) > >> > >> Create an Image, you can always upgrade if needed... > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > >> To: [email protected]; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > >> <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 8:01:25 AM > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose > >> > >> Ack, replying to my reply, it seems I went off on a different tnagent than > >> what was asked. > >> > >> You have a fairly *beefy server. I would not make the disk subsystem the > >> choke point for future growth. I would also not go overboard with disks > >> or expensive RAID sets. I would recommend 10K SAS (146/300GB) in a simple > >> RAID1. I would start with some perf counters Disk Read, Disk Writes, Disk > >> Queue, CPU and you can grow your server knowing the impact as you grow. > >> You can always add more disks later. This is, of course, just my opinion > >> and opinions will vary upon everyones current experince. > >> > >> Any idea how many servers and expected clients/connections? Or did I miss > >> this in the thread? > >> > >> X > >> > >> > >> > >> Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] > >> > >> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:14:37 > >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing > >> list<[email protected]> > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose > >> > >> > >> IMO, RAID1 would be sufficient especially with the IOPs current SAS/SCSI > >> or even SATA drives provide. If RAID5 is required for critical uptime > >> then I would go as far as to suggest RAID6 just because of the shorter > >> rebuild time and higher success rate for rebuilds as there are 2 parity > >> stripes to build from. There are fairly cheap SAS/SATA cards > >> (Adaptec/3ware/Areca) as a solution but are the extra avalable writes > >> required? RAID10 is just too expensive a solution for an app that has > >> small writes/reads. RAID1, IMO, is sufficient...why not use VMware to > >> copy/move a VM each night off a JBOD or RAID1 so, in a pinch, downtime > >> could be reduced to minutes, depending on hardware failure point... > >> Without the performance degradation of disk rebuilds. > >> > >> > >> Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Donnie Newlove <[email protected]> > >> > >> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:10:44 > >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing > >> list<[email protected]> > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose > >> > >> > >> Is there really any reason to use expensive setups when it comes to > >> storage? The harddrive is barley used at all except when the server > >> change level but the clients have to do that as well so it's not like > >> they have to wait for the server, the server will be finished in time > >> even with an average consumer drive, there is no reason it would not > >> be. > >> > >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:50 PM, mdma <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Hi everyone, this is my 1st post here, i usually sit back and just read > >> > what's going on, scanning it for useful information. > >> > I need some help regarding hard drives. I'm going to be running a > >> > dedicated server soon and want to know which you guys think are better > >> > for the job. > >> > The box will be running at first a couple of websites, small mysql > >> > databases, and then of course mainly game servers. > >> > The websites and database etc will be moved from this box to another > >> > down the line, and it will then only run game servers. > >> > My Box Specs are 1U > >> > 2 x Quad Core Xeons > >> > 8GB DDR2 > >> > 250GB Seagate CUDA ES, 7200rpm 32mb cache, with NCQ hard drives. > >> > > >> > Should i be worried about the performance of these hard drives under > >> > load, running multiple game servers etc, or should i upgrade them to > >> > Seagate Cheetah 15k rpm SAS drives, or 10k rpm Raptors. > >> > I have been told by some that the 10k rpm Raptors perform quite well, > >> > but i would like the opinions of you guys to help me decide on the > >> > upgrade path. > >> > I would hate to put all this time into setting everything up, only to > >> > have the hard drives cause me issues down the track. > >> > > >> > Many Thanks > >> > > >> > Roy Jonas > >> > > >> >_______________________________________________ > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> > please visit: > >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
