I believe its downloaded to the server itself.

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 2:09 PM, DontWannaName! <[email protected]>wrote:

> VAC is updated.. they just dont mention it anywhere. I dont think they
> always include it in their game upddates, it downloads in the background.
> My
> hypothesis...,
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Mike Stiehm <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Whats your IP address?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Donnie Newlove
> > Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 5:35 AM
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Recent cheaters
> >
> >  "You have been permanently banned from this board.
> > Please contact the Board Administrator for more information.
> > Reason given for ban: We don't allow Spammers!
> > A ban has been issued on your IP address."
> >
> > I've never even visited their site before. They need to work on their
> AC...
> >
> >
> > But back on topic, VAC is seriously outdated, I guess it's just not a
> > priority for Valve. Their fanbase still trusts VAC, just try to start
> > a discussion in the VAC forums and you will see. Ironicly it's also
> > the easiest way to get banned from the forums and the mods usually
> > locks everything up. I can't blame them, the avarage steam forumite
> > havnt even figured out that insecure servers are insecure, they just
> > think it means the warning is gone so that Valve can catch more
> > cheaters. True story, just look at the VAC forums. Acutally don't,
> > there is nothing there worth seeing.
> >
> > 8 months ago I uploaded videos of 5 cheaters. 1 of them was banned
> > after about a month. 8 months later he's still the only one caught by
> > VAC and most of them were blatent, only AJ2005 were not completely
> > obvious since he "only" used a wallhack. I think wallhacks/esp is the
> > most used cheat in TF2 and there's probably a lot more than you might
> > think.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=OnlineCheaters&view=videos
> >
> > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Haven Meyer <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > The VAC system has a lot a loopholes in it. Players such as 'Helios'
> and
> > the
> > > AA crew have been using the same basic (C++) framework for years and
> > still
> > > certain loopholes haven't been filled. Then again, the ones that do get
> > > filled get bypassed in a matter of hours. Aside from that, you've got
> > your
> > > mat hacks which with the current system, will never be sniffed by the
> > VAC.
> > > One thing to note though- if you see a jump of hackers in your server,
> > then
> > > there was probably a released client that made it public. A few months
> > back
> > > we saw blatant aimbots / nospread (perfect compenstation), and 100%
> crit
> > > rate chance jump from one day or so, to 2 or 3 an hour. After some
> > > reasearch, it was the same day that [wont say the name of the hack-
> > Initials
> > > are d.s.], was released. Someone on the gameFaqs forums posted a link,
> > and
> > > we were swamped.
> > >
> > > This hasn't been updated in a bit and some of the information could
> > really
> > > use an update, but it is a "hack info" post I made to help inform our
> > > members of what to look for. Not every single hack is one of those
> "Snap
> > to
> > > every single person reguardless of location or visibility" type. There
> > are
> > > plenty of ways to disguise a hack- and many ways to turn certain
> portions
> > of
> > > them off at a moments notice.
> > >
> > > http://www.clanao.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=564
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:52 AM, MjrNuT <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Tony,
> > >>
> > >> Sorry for the late response.  Thanks for the input.  Note that the
> > person's
> > >> account, after 3 months has not been VAC flagged.  I know VAC works in
> > >> mysterious ways and was hoping for concrete backup if the account was
> > >> VACed.  But....it just looked too snappy....
> > >>
> > >> I wonder if the Sniper Update will conjure up a more aggressive use of
> > >> aimbots...?
> > >>
> > >> [FLASH] MjrNuT
> > >> Arise from Flames and Ash, Behold Immortality
> > >>
> > >> www.flamesandash.com
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>  Re: [hlds] Recent cheaters
> > >>
> > >> Tony Paloma
> > >> Thu, 07 May 2009 13:49:24 -0700
> > >>
> > >> Third person makes it pretty hard to judge.
> > >>
> > >> The first video doesn't show very much. In the second video, the shot
> > >> against the scout towards the end is very suspicious. The third video
> is
> > >> hard to tell if anything is going on. It seems like he knows people
> are
> > up
> > >> there when he shouldn't know but he probably just saw people walking
> > around
> > >> up there earlier before the video started. In the fourth video, he
> snaps
> > to
> > >> somebody up top about 20 seconds in. Or maybe he was just shooting
> > someone
> > >> down where he was looking and then checking the roof real quick right
> > >> after.
> > >>
> > >> It would be much better if the video was first person, but I'd say you
> > were
> > >> justified in banning him.
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